Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

[John Lambies Doos]

Welsh minister Nigel Adams has resigned, an arch Brexiteer

Claiming he doesn't negotiate with Marxists [emoji23][emoji4][emoji4]. What an arsehole

[dorlomin]

This shifts the blame for the disaster that will be Brexit from the No Deal crew to Labour and May in the eyes of the Brexit voters*. In other words it allows who ever picks up the mantle of the 48 Counties Continuity UKIP to promise a land of unicorns and honey for years to come, if only we ditch the EU for WTO. 

It also has a good chance of an deal being struck that will be a referendum 2 for Mays deal plus some "Better Together" type promises on labour rights and environment vs no deal so forcing the public to endorse a very unpopular deal with fake guarentees vs no deal. 
 

*The remain voters will very unlikely see it in strictly that light. 

 

The question is is it thicko Jezza on his own or will he take Starmer, who is a pretty sharp lawyer, in with him. Answers on a postcard. 

[doulikefish]

So basically after a 5 hour meeting the answer is "lets ask the other guy for help"

[John Lambies Doos]

Just add a fucking CU and let's move on

[doulikefish]

I remember the good old days when the Eu would cave in at the last minute 🤣

[Antlion]

1 minute ago, doulikefish said:

I remember the good old days when the Eu would cave in at the last minute 

I remember this line being trotted out by the UKnats constantly - “this is how the EU does things; it caves at the eleventh hour”. Was there any evidence that it was a perennial EU tactic or was it just another lie?

[doulikefish]

I remember this line being trotted out by the UKnats constantly - “this is how the EU does things; it caves at the eleventh hour”. Was there any evidence that it was a perennial EU tactic or was it just another lie?

Brought to you by people that put some stuff on the side of a bus,they are also the ones telling us that the wto is great

[Suspect Device]

20 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

The Paras opening up in the chamber does have a certain je n'est sais quoi.

They're getting the practice in already.

[Donathan]

25 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

Just add a fucking CU and let's move on

 

Adding a CU on it's own is a pretty bad idea if they stop short of the Nick Boles proposal which is a Norway style Brexit (CU + SM). Make no mistake, if Corbyn settled for a Ken Clarke proposal of a customs union Turkey style Brexit, that's still a fairly hard Brexit.

 

If I was Corbyn, I'd be saying it's either Norway style EFTA/EEA with full single market access, or if you're not willing to allow free movement then let's do a referendum on May's deal.

[welshbairn]

3 minutes ago, Donathan said:

 

Adding a CU on it's own is a pretty bad idea if they stop short of the Nick Boles proposal which is a Norway style Brexit (CU + SM). Make no mistake, if Corbyn settled for a Ken Clarke proposal of a customs union Turkey style Brexit, that's still a fairly hard Brexit.

 

If I was Corbyn, I'd be saying it's either Norway style EFTA/EEA with full single market access, or if you're not willing to allow free movement then let's do a referendum on May's deal.

Whatever they put in to get it passed won't be set in stone. There's nothing to stop anything from a hard brexit to Canada, Norway or Rejoining happening after negotiations. The important thing is for Parliament to have the right of veto and to mandate negotiating priorities during the transition. That's why the EU are so flexible, they'll happily add a customs union to the PD as nobody will know what it means until the details have been negotiated.

[Adamski]

The New York Times: "What we're seeing is a country that's determined to commit economic suicide but can't even agree on how to kill itself."

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

 
Yet with your secondary level economic genius you were happy to wrench us out the Union that matters (80% of trade) with no guarantee on even currency. Go figure. 

If you’re going to be an arse about it its actually tertiary level. Regardless yes because leaving the UK doesnt preclude trade. Currency issue has been addressed!

[Have some faith in Magic]

Lack of high profile resignations make it very obvious this is just window dressing but is Jezza smart enough to realise it?

[ICTJohnboy]

PMQ's back to the usual boring knock about stuff on poverty, tax cuts, national minimum wage, etc, etc.

Will Brexit get a mention in this exchange?

[btb]

FFS Blackford another clanger! 

[Loondave1]

Windbag rides again...

[Loondave1]

Who put 20p in Blackford ?

[ICTJohnboy]

Is Corbyn anxious to end freedom of movent?

I was under the impression that would have to continue if we remain in the customs union.

[Donathan]

Is Corbyn anxious to end freedom of movent?
I was under the impression that would have to continue if we remain in the customs union.

Customs union (Turkey) and Single market (Norway) are two different things. CU alone doesn’t have free movement

[dirty dingus]

3 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

Is Corbyn anxious to end freedom of movent?

I was under the impression that would have to continue if we remain in the customs union.

He wants cake same as Theresa. They will not get access to CU and single market without it.

Edited April 3, 2019 by dirty dingus