Donathan Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 When does she actually meet Corbyn? Tomorrow?Corbyn hasn’t agreed to a meeting yet. He hadn’t even been given a heads up that she was preparing to offer talks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Freedom of movement is unpopular. Freedom of capital is so unpopular we aren't allowed to talk about it. Freedom of services doesn't really exist because you can't have an account in Surrey being undercut by one in Gdansk. Freedom of goods within the bloc has no real downsides.Just tell me when we had a vote on Freedom of Movement?It's used by Gammons to cover up the fact that the immigration they are most against is that which happened 50+ years ago.If you asked your average voter what FoM means they'll start quoting "too much immigration" - it's clear they don't actually understand what it means.If Switzerland, Spain and Austria - not exactly bastions of liberal immigration policies - can cope with FoM then so can we. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_62 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 EU sensing a trap. May not allow the extension without participation in the elections. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, welshbairn said: She's challenged him to accept the result of the winning indicative vote, if he will, she will. That was the clever bit. She must have fix in mind. What can anyone do if she reneges on her promise? She has already announced her resignation, if it doesn’t go as she wants he has absolutely leverage over her; neither does anyone else. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, dee_62 said: EU sensing a trap. May not allow the extension without participation in the elections. That's how she probably got the ERG on board. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Just tell me when we had a vote on Freedom of Movement? FoM was clearly a major issue during the referendum. It is a disastrous policy that means we can never have full employment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 Campaigning is meant to start on the 12th of April for the Euro elections.I'm voting SNP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: That's how she probably got the ERG on board. The ERG certainly aren’t going to be onboard if she’s negotiating with Corbyn. Trap or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share Posted April 2, 2019 What’s the obsession with a customs union now? Be as well just staying in with full membership. In the main leave voters couldn't give a f**k about a CU. It was way down their priorities when casting there vote. FOM is the big one for them. Exit with a customs union but ban FOM and Dave fae Derby and Simon from Sunderland will be happy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: A good PM would have stood up to the small band of hard Brexiters and told them to do one. By instantly ruling out CU/SM she made a rod for her own back. I have absolutely no sympathy. This. Fucking Tory bitch. She could have consulted with the leaders of the main parties 3 years ago to try and find a consensus. Instead her only consideration at every turn was the Tory party and pandering to a small amount of right-wing bigots. f**k her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 FoM was clearly a major issue during the referendum. It is a disastrous policy that means we can never have full employment.So we didn't have a vote on Freedom of Movement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Londonwell said: The ERG certainly aren’t going to be onboard if she’s negotiating with Corbyn. Trap or not. She did enough to stop half her cabinet resigning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Detournement said: FoM was clearly a major issue during the referendum. It is a disastrous policy that means we can never have full employment. Don't remember having full employment before FoM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, Detournement said: FoM was clearly a major issue during the referendum. It is a disastrous policy that means we can never have full employment. It isn't possible to have full employment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 In the main leave voters couldn't give a f**k about a CU. It was way down their priorities when casting there vote. FOM is the big one for them. Exit with a customs union but ban FOM and Dave fae Derby and Simon from Sunderland will be happy.You've got that wrong - it's ban black, Asian and muslimy people and they'll be happy.Objections to FoM have always been of the racist scapegoat variety.The "they're taking our jobs away" argument would hold if they actually wanted the jobs done by foreign workers - but the reality is that many of the indigenous population don't want to do these jobs. It's why, for example, the agriculture sector is absolutely shitting it over Brexit because they know they won't get local workers to do the jobs.It's not a pay issue either but the nature of these jobs - to put it bluntly some of these jobs seem to be beneath our indigenous population - or too much like "hard work". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: You've got that wrong - it's ban black, Asian and muslimy people and they'll be happy. Objections to FoM have always been of the racist scapegoat variety. The "they're taking our jobs away" argument would hold if they actually wanted the jobs done by foreign workers - but the reality is that many of the indigenous population don't want to do these jobs. It's why, for example, the agriculture sector is absolutely shitting it over Brexit because they know they won't get local workers to do the jobs. It's not a pay issue either but the nature of these jobs - to put it bluntly some of these jobs seem to be beneath our indigenous population - or too much like "hard work". https://talkradio.co.uk/news/daffodil-farmer-says-european-workers-saved-his-business-19040230520 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 50 minutes ago, Detournement said: Campaigning is meant to start on the 12th of April for the Euro elections. I'm voting SNP That's fine. So long as you don't vote for that arse Cock Burn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, welshbairn said: She did enough to stop half her cabinet resigning. Lets see what transpires. JRM has already given these lines to the press, “what was announced today was an attempt to overturn Brexit in an attempt to do a deal with socialists. It’s very serious.” The whole thing is clearly a trap for Corbyn but isn’t without risk for May as well. Edited April 2, 2019 by Londonwell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 That's fine. So long as you don't vote for that arse Cock Burn.Calling someone an arsecock seems harsh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Nice of the P&B intelligentsia to point out the potential trap for Corbyn/Labour but I will go out on a limb and say they probably realise that as well.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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