dorlomin Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 4 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: This march nor the petition will unfortunately change nothing Given both main parties and much of the print press are pro Brexit, marches like this help to give a voice to those who twat features May claimed to be speaking for the other night. It helps people who are in strongly Brexit areas feel like the alternative is a loud and important part of British political discourse, it encourages people by making them feel part of a larger movement. We did not get universal sufferage the week after the first Chartists march, women did not get the vote a month after the first Suffragettes march. It is a massive statement to MPs that Remain matters and it will affect how people vote in elections. It also should help jog a few memories that the demographics are that Remain voters will be around a lot longer than Leave ones. It also may just stiffen a few spines when indicative votes happen over a second referendum or a softer Brexit. There is a reason that Remain is shouting for a second referendum and Leave is not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainspotter Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Also, Ruddles is still overpriced by around £1.85 a pint based on what @ICTJohnboy is paying for his. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) Accrington folk might not be capable of understanding the implications of Brexit but they do know where to find a decent pint at a decent price. Edited March 23, 2019 by ICTJohnboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/03/20/ukanias-great-privatization-heist/ 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, MixuFixit said: Unless you're eating it in Buenos Aires, Argy beef is not very good If Fray Bentos was anything to go by when it still came from Uruguay, not surprised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Shipman is the political editor of the Sunday Times 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/03/20/ukanias-great-privatization-heist/An outstanding article, and one of the reasons p&b political forum is crucial. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, pandarilla said: 1 hour ago, Lofarl said: https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/03/20/ukanias-great-privatization-heist/ An outstanding article, and one of the reasons p&b political forum is crucial. That is an eye opener. Well done Maggie T. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Googled Teresa May Coup and from the Daily Mail online:- Theresa May could be ousted from No 10 within days after her Cabinet plotted to replace her with Michael Gove as a caretaker Prime Minister. A senior Downing Street source told The Mail on Sunday last night that even Mrs May’s Chief Whip, Julian Smith, had advised her to set out her departure plans, with Environment Secretary Mr Gove emerging as the ‘consensus choice’ to succeed her. Mr Gove is being championed by Cabinet Brexiteers who are furious about what they see as an attempted ‘coup’ by Remain-backing David Lidington, Mrs May’s de facto deputy In a number of astonishing, fast-moving developments, coming just days before a series of historic Commons votes: No 10 warned Tory rebels that, if they didn’t back Mrs May’s deal, the Commons could revoke Article 50, effectively cancelling Brexit; Mrs May mounted a last-ditch effort to save the deal by pleading with Jacob Rees-Mogg to drop his opposition – as his European Research Group made plans to select their preferred leadership candidate; 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) SKY a news tonight saying that all tomorrow’s papers are running with the same lead about May having to go. The cabinet cannot technically force May out but it will be interesting to see what she does if the pressure is applied. Anyone coming in as Pm and trying to force a Hard Brexit will be met by the same opposition in the Tory ranks. Interesting days ahead. Edited March 23, 2019 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Have to say the aerial shots of the London March were very impressive. Will the calls for a people's vote be ignored? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Sounds like the cabinet have decided to ditch May but can’t agree on a unity candidate to take over in the interim. The remain faction want David Liddington to take over whereas the Brexiteers are insisting on Gove or Hunt.Gove probably the best option for me given he’s known to favour a Norway style soft Brexit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: SKY a news tonight saying that all tomorrow’s papers are running with the same lead about May having to go. The cabinet cannot technically force May out but it will be interesting to see what she does if the pressure is applied. Anyone coming in as Pm and trying to force a Hard Brexit will be met by the same opposition in the Tory ranks. Interesting days ahead. I would be seriously worried if she was replaced by anyone in her party who supports leaving without a deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Have to say the aerial shots of the London March were very impressive. Will the calls for a people's vote be ignored? One million people march, and 5 million people sign a petition, and none of it is even mentioned in the online versions of right-wing newspapers like The Telegraph or The Express. 95% of the ignorant, racist f*ckers who support Brexit will have no idea at all that this is taking place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Donathan said: Sounds like the cabinet have decided to ditch May but can’t agree on a unity candidate to take over in the interim. The remain faction want David Liddington to take over whereas the Brexiteers are insisting on Gove or Hunt. Gove probably the best option for me given he’s known to favour a Norway style soft Brexit I thought Liddington was automatic as deputy till after an Party election. Gove is a slippery toad, no idea what he favours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 One million people march, and 5 million people sign a petition, and none of it is even mentioned in the online versions of right-wing newspapers like The Telegraph or The Express. 95% of the ignorant, racist f*ckers who support Brexit will have no idea at all that this is taking place. The silent majority want brexit and couldn't give a f**k about petitions and marches 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: One million people march, and 5 million people sign a petition, and none of it is even mentioned in the online versions of right-wing newspapers like The Telegraph or The Express. 95% of the ignorant, racist f*ckers who support Brexit will have no idea at all that this is taking place. More likely to be watching the Little Fockers than the Sky News headlines? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: 11 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: One million people march, and 5 million people sign a petition, and none of it is even mentioned in the online versions of right-wing newspapers like The Telegraph or The Express. 95% of the ignorant, racist f*ckers who support Brexit will have no idea at all that this is taking place. The silent majority want brexit and couldn't give a f**k about petitions and marches The silent majority want to remain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I don't know what the silent majority want. I've never heard from them. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I thought Liddington was automatic as deputy till after an Party election. Gove is a slippery toad, no idea what he favours. Gove will favour whatever his Mrs tells him to. Edited March 23, 2019 by The_Kincardine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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