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3 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:
6 minutes ago, welshbairn said:
I think May lost her marbles when the Speaker blocked a 3rd reading. She seemed to be almost getting the DUP and ERG on board, with a few Labour, and then she fucked it by not saying "no problem, we'll just introduce a bill to set aside convention and have a 3rd reading anyway", but instead getting more bolshie with the remain inclined. The ERG realised there was now a real chance of a hard brexit so she won't get any votes from them, and after last night's speech she probably won't get any from Labour. It could be a bigger defeat than the first 2, unless everyone shits their pants because there's no clear way to avoid a hard brexit without it.

Of course there is. There will be a longer extension given on the eve of no deal. It just won't happen.

Unless May has decided she wants a hard brexit if Parliament has the effrontery to defeat her deal again. It wouldn't be easy to stop her. 

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1 minute ago, welshbairn said:

I think May lost her marbles when the Speaker blocked a 3rd reading. She seemed to be almost getting the DUP and ERG on board, ...

Meanwhile Sammy Wilson says:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-47652775

...Sammy Wilson said he believed the PM was trying to threaten Parliament.

But he said it had not worked and his party would not back the deal if it remained unchanged...

and while we are on the subject of Sammy Wilson here's a tune some of you might enjoy:

 

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8 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:
12 minutes ago, welshbairn said:
I think May lost her marbles when the Speaker blocked a 3rd reading. She seemed to be almost getting the DUP and ERG on board, with a few Labour, and then she fucked it by not saying "no problem, we'll just introduce a bill to set aside convention and have a 3rd reading anyway", but instead getting more bolshie with the remain inclined. The ERG realised there was now a real chance of a hard brexit so she won't get any votes from them, and after last night's speech she probably won't get any from Labour. It could be a bigger defeat than the first 2, unless everyone shits their pants because there's no clear way to avoid a hard brexit without it.

Of course there is. There will be a longer extension given on the eve of no deal. It just won't happen.

It would have to be requested. Who's going to do that?

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5 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Unless May has decided she wants a hard brexit if Parliament has the effrontery to defeat her deal again. It wouldn't be easy to stop her. 

There's a revoke article 50 resolution that has been submitted to the speaker with cross-party support, which will be the last chance for sanity basically. Can't see Corbyn going for that, unfortunately. Think he'll cave and get his party to abstain so May's deal goes through assuming of course it even can be voted on again. We'll find out next week.

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12 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:
16 minutes ago, welshbairn said:
I think May lost her marbles when the Speaker blocked a 3rd reading. She seemed to be almost getting the DUP and ERG on board, with a few Labour, and then she fucked it by not saying "no problem, we'll just introduce a bill to set aside convention and have a 3rd reading anyway", but instead getting more bolshie with the remain inclined. The ERG realised there was now a real chance of a hard brexit so she won't get any votes from them, and after last night's speech she probably won't get any from Labour. It could be a bigger defeat than the first 2, unless everyone shits their pants because there's no clear way to avoid a hard brexit without it.

Of course there is. There will be a longer extension given on the eve of no deal. It just won't happen.

I doubt it, there's more chance of the pope getting a penis extension, unless the mad woman's bill flies we're fecked.

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Fact is the so called parliamentarians have played right into the EU's hands.

We need to get out of the shambles that is Westminster, the commons is the laughing stock of Europe with all that feckin donkey braying and hear hear's, a complete and utter joke.

Lets get independence where our representatives behave respectably and not like drunken clowns.

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3 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

There's a revoke article 50 resolution that has been submitted to the speaker with cross-party support, which will be the last chance for sanity basically. Can't see Corbyn going for that, unfortunately. Think he'll cave and get his party to abstain so May's deal goes through assuming of course it even can be voted on again. We'll find out next week.

Nigel Farage's suggestion today was a straight up vote in the Commons between No Deal and Revoke. Either he's worried about losing his raison d'etre and MEP expenses if we leave, never mind the American lecture tours, or he's convinced No Deal would win. The majority of Tory MPs at least would probably be out of a job if they voted revoke, it's hard to call.

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Nigel Farage's suggestion today was a straight up vote in the Commons between No Deal and Revoke. Either he's worried about losing his raison d'etre and MEP expenses if we leave, never mind the American lecture tours, or he's convinced No Deal would win. The majority of Tory MPs at least would probably be out of a job if they voted revoke, it's hard to call.


Ever the optimist but I think Revoke would win.

Tories + DUP = 323

Everyone else = 315

Even the Labour leave supporters would surely go revoke over no deal, plus your Dominic Grieve and Amber Rudd types
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2 minutes ago, Donathan said:

 


Ever the optimist but I think Revoke would win.

Tories + DUP = 323

Everyone else = 315

Even the Labour leave supporters would surely go revoke over no deal, plus your Dominic Grieve and Amber Rudd types

 

Revoke would beat No Deal.

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Sky news now reporting an alternative extension until end of year. EU is caving, nobody wants a no deal, it will be a longer extension when she doesn't get vote through and then a second referendum. Anyone that really thinks there is a possibility of a no deal next week is batshit crazy

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3 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

Sky news now reporting an alternative extension until end of year. EU is caving, nobody wants a no deal, it will be a longer extension when she doesn't get vote through and then a second referendum. Anyone that really thinks there is a possibility of a no deal next week is batshit crazy


Maybe somebody managed to convince Macron that  No Deal could genuinely have been the outcome of making it No Deal or May's Deal:

 

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