Guest Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, sparky88 said: It's why a second referendum isn't a great idea. It might even result in No Deal. Revoking Article 50 is the only way to go. A good start might extending article 50 for a while. The original and most costly mistake was made by Cameron when he decided to ask" the country" what they wanted, the fact that nobody was given any information on the pros and cons and what may or may not happen was the next mistake and then the PM and parliament decided to waste over 2 years with childish and arrogant in- fighting for their personal political gain. Unfortunately the Genie is well and truly out of the bottle and whatever decision (if any) that we all finally end up with will undoubtedly have long lasting negative effects on our economy and reputation throughout the world for years to come. For any trekkies out there it's the old Kobayashi Maru I'm afraid.................... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, WATTOO said: The result of the HMRC case against Lorraine Kelly just perfectly sums up everything that's wrong with this country and our system where the wealthy are given a free lunch at the expense of the ordinary low paid worker. This is the type of thing which brought about Brexit in the first place but of course the EU has absolutely nothing to do with this but sadly the misinformed public don't quite get this and just blame every perceived negative on the EU. Total shambles. Lorraine Kelly's tax case sums up everything wrong with the country AND is the cause of brexit? Interesting take. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, MacDuffman said: Try reading the post above the one you have quoted I know what it relates to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Lorraine Kelly's tax case sums up everything wrong with the country AND is the cause of brexit? Interesting take. "type of thing". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Lorraine Kelly's tax case sums up everything wrong with the country AND is the cause of brexit? Interesting take. There's a case to be said that Brexit has been promoted by the filthy rich as a way of avoiding the EU's regulations on tax transparency that kick in early 2019. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, WATTOO said: "type of thing". Lorraine Kelly set herself up as a contractor. Something that is done by many, many "ordinary" people on "ordinary" pay all across the country. They too would be pretty pissed off if HMRC hit them with an income tax and NIC bill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 The result of the HMRC case against Lorraine Kelly just perfectly sums up everything that's wrong with this country and our system where the wealthy are given a free lunch at the expense of the ordinary low paid worker. This is the type of thing which brought about Brexit in the first place but of course the EU has absolutely nothing to do with this but sadly the misinformed public don't quite get this and just blame every perceived negative on the EU. Total shambles.Amazing. Every word of what you just wrote was wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I'm well aware of the Tax laws and I'm also well aware of WHY they were set up, however for those who don't quite understand my point (and I'm not sure how), it's about how the system is being abused by the super rich such as "celebrities", "sports stars", "Actors & Actresses" etc so as they can avoid paying what they're due to the exchequer. If people such as Usedtogotocentral park think this type of behaviour had no influence on many peoples Brexit voting then they're quite deluded and out of touch. Conservatives perhaps ???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/1108682153615777792 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Lorraine Kelly set herself up as a contractor. Something that is done by many, many "ordinary" people on "ordinary" pay all across the country. They too would be pretty pissed off if HMRC hit them with an income tax and NIC bill. Yeah imagine having to pay the same taxes as anyone else; I can just hear a tiny violin soundtrack playing to sum up their plight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Lorraine Kelly set herself up as a contractor. Something that is done by many, many "ordinary" people on "ordinary" pay all across the country. They too would be pretty pissed off if HMRC hit them with an income tax and NIC bill. Off topic, but whilst the judgement itself seems correct the rules are fucked up. No one, including “ordinary” people, should be able to manipulate their employment status in order to pay less tax; but that’s Tory Britain for you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Documents sliding across my desk this afternoon regarding our firms plans for Brexit. All becoming very real. Thankfully a lot of our manufacturing is done in Italy so we can bear the brunt of a potential no-deal, but f**k me what a shambles this is gonna be for a lot of engineering companies never mind the rest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Off topic, but whilst the judgement itself seems correct the rules are fucked up. No one, including “ordinary” people, should be able to manipulate their employment status in order to pay less tax; but that’s Tory Britain for you. Exactly, that was my point. Thank God someone gets it !! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Lorraine Kelly set herself up as a contractor. Something that is done by many, many "ordinary" people on "ordinary" pay all across the country. They too would be pretty pissed off if HMRC hit them with an income tax and NIC bill. Setting yourself up as a contractor and being a contractor are not the same thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I don't know much about it but if she wasn't allowed to make the money she paid her agent tax deductible, the HMRC would be taxing the same money twice, which seems a bit unfair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Lorraine Kelly set herself up as a contractor. Something that is done by many, many "ordinary" people on "ordinary" pay all across the country. They too would be pretty pissed off if HMRC hit them with an income tax and NIC bill. They probably will be hitting me next April. Not that I'm too bothered because I don't avoid anything like the amount of tax the DAB did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Setting yourself up as a contractor and being a contractor are not the same thing.No, hence she was investigated and taken to court. She just happened to win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, welshbairn said: https://twitter.com/iainmartin1/status/1108682153615777792 That is a truly disturbing Twitter feed, some real b*****ds on there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I think most folk would agree that Corbyn has been hopeless throughout this process. Nonetheless when he met EU leaders with his proposals they all agreed these were workable. If Theresa May had made genuine attempts at cross party discussions there could have been a Brexit that I think the majority of folk in the U.K. would have accepted (acceptance not being the same as being happy with). Of course it’s not May’s style and she probably would have seen it as handing Labour a partial victory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 The Telegraph publishing some desperate sh**e today about “the nastiest things the EU have ever said to the UK”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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