Kyle Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Fucking love Dirty John. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sooky said: The year 1604 defeats the government. Also, that was peak Bercow. Spending about 10 minutes insulting the government before getting to the actual ruling. I was delighted at the time when the rule was made, am equally happy today. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Some one sum up for me please 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 So the ball is in the EU's court and they can now drive a hard bargain on Thursday on what Theresa May needs to do to get an extension, because as things stand if the HoC won't accept No deal under any circumstances the only way to avoid that in the absence of an extension would be to revoke article 50. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sooky said: The year 1604 defeats the government. Also, that was peak Bercow. Spending about 10 minutes insulting the government before getting to the actual ruling. Don't think he actually made a ruling, just stated what would normally be done. There is another duty for him not to go against will of the house if they want another vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 There is going to be one hell of a backlash on this. May probably planned this with Bercow as she doesn't want brexit and we could now be looking at a two year extension 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Quite a move from Bercow. Brexit is right up in the air now. No certainty of extension by EU either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 People who know more about this stuff: theoretically, could the government hold a very quick Queen’s Speech and therefore usher in a new session of Parliament? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Don't think he actually made a ruling, just stated what would normally be done. There is another duty for him not to go against will of the house if they want another vote. Right now the will of the house would be to vote the deal down, again. David Davies obviously switched last week to voting for the deal last week but he's talking about voting against the deal today too, so isn't even one way traffic in favour of May right now. Edited March 18, 2019 by Kyle 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Seen enough people saying it doesn't mean much as there's numerous procedural ways around this but it's still funny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Sooky said: People who know more about this stuff: theoretically, could the government hold a very quick Queen’s Speech and therefore usher in a new session of Parliament? Even if it were possible you have to vote on the Queens speech 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieson87 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Just now, NotThePars said: Seen enough people saying it doesn't mean much as there's numerous procedural ways around this but it's still funny. What has been said? I have not seen anything stating that so far. Genuine question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, jamieson87 said: What has been said? I have not seen anything stating that so far. Genuine question. Literally just "there's enough procedural ways around it" lol. I haven't a fucking clue how Westminster works so can't dispute it either way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Tory bot Laura will be fizzing for the rest of the day now. The salty tears of the ministers should be some sight to behold too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sooky said: People who know more about this stuff: theoretically, could the government hold a very quick Queen’s Speech and therefore usher in a new session of Parliament? Rees Mogg was talking about having a prorogue of the House, which means ending the Parliamentary session without dissolving it, and then starting another session without a GE. Don't know if it's ever happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieson87 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Rees Mogg was talking about having a prorogue of the House, which means ending the Parliamentary session without dissolving it, and then starting another session without a GE. Don't know if it's ever happened. Solicitor General just suggested this too - These are some days for parliamentary procedure. Textbooks will be written about these few months. Fascinating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Parliament really is just about maintaining kayfabe isn't it? You can do any old shit as long as you can try and maintain a semblance of traditional legitimacy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: There is going to be one hell of a backlash on this. May probably planned this with Bercow as she doesn't want brexit and we could now be looking at a two year extension Probably all carefully choreographed to keep the Tory-DUP government intact for as long as possible to keep Corbyn out. Hopefully they bite the bullet, revoke Article 50 so Westminster can recover the initiative that was lost when Theresa May stupidly invoked Article 50 before she had the basis for an acceptable withdrawal deal giving the EU all the leverage in the negotiations. Then they can have a No Deal vs Remain referendum to settle the issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 He just said it was not necessarily the words of deal that had to change, if the circumstances and meaning changed that might be enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 A vote to put the deal to the people would be lovely and highly acceptable, IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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