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59 minutes ago, AUFC90 said:

Still waiting on Osbourne's emergency budget to plug his imaginary and immediate 30 billion blackhole after a leave vote. To suggest that remain weren't lying scumbags like leave is beyond parody. Two of the worst campaigns I have ever seen, side by side, talking complete shite.

Thanks to Blue-Toon for providing the link.

George Osborne, the then Chancellor, said in a BBC Radio 4 interview that leaving the European Union would cause "financial instability" and leave "no economic plan," which would need an immediate response from the government. 

https://www.politico.eu/article/accurate-prophecy-or-misleading-project-fear-how-referendum-claims-have-panned-out-so-far/

Leavers believe any old shite Farage and co tell them.

 

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1 minute ago, ayrmad said:

You're the one that is/was involved in politics, JP Morgan, the treasury and others were allowed to spout their shit about a recession, the fact that you can endlessly post pictures that suit your agenda but can't recall/find plenty of proof about the doom mongering says much about you.

Please do furnish us with that evidence that you famously back up your claims with.

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Ayrmad is labouring badly to make a decent point and AUFC is correct. Osborne and his ilk did everything they could to terrify people into voting Remain. The MO was exactly the same as for Indy in 2014. They made next to no effort to make a positive case for the EU - in part because they'd spent years rubbishing the EU and making big statements about the need to get a better deal. 

The promised £30bn budget immediately after a Leave outcome didn't materialise - if anything they pumped money in so that the world wouldn't see the UK falling off a cliff. 

The people who ran Remain are very, very guilty for the midden we're in now. And they all ran for the coast. 

The moral of all of this is that when Indy2 is called, we can all quite readily call out the wankers who set off down the path of instilling fear to win the day. Brexit has burst that as an operating model. The SNP doesn't need to go down the Leave route of massive lies. It just needs to make sure that it calls out c***s making stuff up on the other side.  

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3 minutes ago, HTG said:

Ayrmad is labouring badly to make a decent point and AUFC is correct. Osborne and his ilk did everything they could to terrify people into voting Remain. The MO was exactly the same as for Indy in 2014. They made next to no effort to make a positive case for the EU - in part because they'd spent years rubbishing the EU and making big statements about the need to get a better deal. 

The promised £30bn budget immediately after a Leave outcome didn't materialise - if anything they pumped money in so that the world wouldn't see the UK falling off a cliff. 

The people who ran Remain are very, very guilty for the midden we're in now. And they all ran for the coast. 

The moral of all of this is that when Indy2 is called, we can all quite readily call out the wankers who set off down the path of instilling fear to win the day. Brexit has burst that as an operating model. The SNP doesn't need to go down the Leave route of massive lies. It just needs to make sure that it calls out c***s making stuff up on the other side.  

I'm not labouring in the slightest, I don't feel the need to furnish the closedminds with evidence that even the halfwits know is out there.

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2 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:


Economically - lost 10% value of currency overnight- not recovered to pre result levels. Large number of job losses= reduced exports. Industry and financial sector moving to EU, even businesses owned by fcuking brexit campaigners are leaving ffs. Recession forecast. Slowest growing g7 economy. Lack of inward foreign investment.

Politically/culturally- loss of eu migrants who contribute to our economy, including doctors, care staff and manual workers. The rise of the extreme right buoyed by brexit. Increase in hate crime in many areas of the UK. Unemployment forecast to rise even further and no contingency being made. Government incapable of consensus dominated by extremists. Government incapable of planning, see the ferry scandal and lack of contingency for medicines and cancer treatment materials post brexit.

Economically fucked, getting worse if it happens and culturally and politically fucking bankrupt. But aye its ok because it’s not impacted you.

 

2 hours ago, Ross. said:

No recession, but growth has dropped relative to the rest of the G7, real term wage growth has dropped where it hasn't in other places, the rate of household borrowing has increased, investment by domestic and foreign business has dropped, and UK stocks have performed poorer than their contemporaries in the developed world.

Not all of that can be attributed to Brexit. It could of course, all be completely coincidental.

Both good posts.  Obviously impossible to quantify exactly how much of our lack of economic traction is directly down to Brexit but it's clearly a major contributor.  Add Indyref to the mix and the British political agenda has been dominated by factionalists and secessionists for at least 6 years.  Clearly UK PLC has suffered greatly during the half a decade or more that we sane folk have been indulging these self-absorbed arseholes.

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2 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

 

Both good posts.  Obviously impossible to quantify exactly how much of our lack of economic traction is directly down to Brexit but it's clearly a major contributor.  Add Indyref to the mix and the British political agenda has been dominated by factionalists and secessionists for at least 6 years.  Clearly UK PLC has suffered greatly during the half a decade or more that we sane folk have been indulging these self-absorbed arseholes.

There's a lot of typing involved in "factionalists and secessionists". Why not just type "britnats" instead? It's easier, shorter and synonymous.

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1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

Brokenshire for as much as he is a Tory and so on, seemed to actually be a man with a brain and some integrity - went to GAA , Nationalist and Unionist events - Bradley really seems rabbit in the headlines stuff. ''Do you Nationalists vote for the DUP then ; and Unionists for SF?" Absolutely unbelievable, considering she's the Minister for the North of Ireland.

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15 minutes ago, Tibbermoresaint said:

There's a lot of typing involved in "factionalists and secessionists". Why not just type "britnats" instead? It's easier, shorter and synonymous.

Because they are not the only , "factionalists and secessionists" who have plagued Britain and undermined economic confidence over the past 6 years.

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2 hours ago, Baxter Parp said:

Please do furnish us with that evidence that you famously back up your claims with.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/06/project-fear-two-years-on-six-brexit-predictions-that-failed-to-come-true/

Goldman Sachs predicted a recession by 2017 according to this link.

 

And JP Morgan predicted an independent Scotland with it's own currency. Fingers crossed for that.

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1 minute ago, Suspect Device said:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/06/project-fear-two-years-on-six-brexit-predictions-that-failed-to-come-true/

Goldman Sachs predicted a recession by 2017 according to this link.

 

And JP Morgan predicted an independent Scotland with it's own currency. Fingers crossed for that.

But did anyone predict a meltdown?

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1 minute ago, Suspect Device said:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/06/project-fear-two-years-on-six-brexit-predictions-that-failed-to-come-true/

Goldman Sachs predicted a recession by 2017 according to this link.

And JP Morgan predicted an independent Scotland with it's own currency. Fingers crossed for that.

That's a Spectator think piece column with as much evidence for its claims as Ayrmad famously provides for his.

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Both good posts.  Obviously impossible to quantify exactly how much of our lack of economic traction is directly down to Brexit but it's clearly a major contributor.  Add Indyref to the mix and the British political agenda has been dominated by factionalists and secessionists for at least 6 years.  Clearly UK PLC has suffered greatly during the half a decade or more that we sane folk have been indulging these self-absorbed arseholes.
Sane folk up here generally voted yes, and remain.

Your continued attempts to equate these two entirely different political agendas is to the detriment of your high moral standing on these threads.
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5 minutes ago, Suspect Device said:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/06/project-fear-two-years-on-six-brexit-predictions-that-failed-to-come-true/

Goldman Sachs predicted a recession by 2017 according to this link.

 

And JP Morgan predicted an independent Scotland with it's own currency. Fingers crossed for that.

Economists get things wrong all the time. The question is would we have been better off now if we'd voted remain, given the fall in investment and postponement of new projects.

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As far as I can see there are only five Tory Remainers who haven't voted for May's deal. Guto Bebb. Jo Johnson. Dominic Grieve. Justine Greening. Phillip Lee.
So if every Tory who voted for the Deal on Tuesday plus the Tory Brexiter rebels plus the DUP votes for the Deal next week it passes even without the three Labour rebels.
 


I wonder if more Tory remainers could join them now that no deal is off the table?
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