peternapper Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: Ruth Davidson will literally throw her baby at you in the race to do that Even she seems to be keeping her head down just now during this carry on, so Brexit has its plus points after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Aaron Banks as well. Exactly what Carol Cadwalladr of The Guardian was tweeting earlier. Anyone who still thinks that Brexit being an attempted right-wing coup is nought but a fevered notion should maybe think on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Did Maybot vote against her own deal? [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sooky said: Also, at this stage, revoking A50 and remaining in the EU on current terms may seem like the most sensible thing to do and it probably is. It’s surely very short-sighted though? Britain will always be a very Eurosceptic and awkward member of the EU and using a veto here and there, whilst the EU will continue to pursue further integration in the future. Many in Britain will simply never go along with that, so all it does it kick the can down the road. So maybe there will be some sort of tiered EU system, leaving more Eurosceptic nations involved but not as closely? Then we are rerunning arguments now about rule making and taking. People will wonder why stay in if you’re being forced to follow rules you don’t make? Even if we do end up remaining, we will come back to all of these issues in the not so distant future. That was all on offer or possible if we'd stayed in and negotiated. Cameron got a great deal on extra migration controls and made zero effort to selling it, thinking his proven Project Fear was all he had to do. Nobody tried to sell a reforming Europe as the way to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: White coats Shirley? Yeah, them too, Nancy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 Did Maybot vote against her own deal? [emoji23]Reminds me of when Kez pushed the wrong button by mistake then claimed she didn't but there was picture proof [emoji23][emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Bit dubious source but it looks like May will have a 3rd go at her shitty deal. https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1105932337202774018 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, dee_62 said: Farage speaking to Andrew Neil earlier and his comments picked up on Twitter. “Extraordinary comments by Nigel Farage getting lost amid the noise: he is lobbying EU governments (possibly Italy) to *veto* any British govt request to extend A50 so as to force a No Deal Brexit on March 29. That's Farage lobbying foreign govts to oppose Britain's parliament” There was a Tory MP with Polish heritage doing something similar with the Polish Government a couple of weeks back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Bit dubious source but it looks like May will have a 3rd go at her shitty deal. https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1105932337202774018 Would it matter if the DUP rejected it? Will there be enough red Tories to see it through? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, Antlion said: Would it matter if the DUP rejected it? Will there be enough red Tories to see it through? They'd need to get a few DUP votes, they're said to be a bit conflicted at the mo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Antlion said: Would it matter if the DUP rejected it? Will there be enough red Tories to see it through? If no other MPs change their position every single Tory who opposed it yesterday would need to vote for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: If no other MPs change their position every single Tory who opposed it yesterday would need to vote for it. Which is unlikely as Dominic Grieve and Justine Greening voted against it and are arch Remainers. Grieve will have a nervous breakdown over this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: They'd need to get a few DUP votes, they're said to be a bit conflicted at the mo. When push comes to shove there's no way any Ulster Unionist could support the back stop because it would lead inexorably to UI. Think the bigger issue is the pro-Brexit fringe that Labour has and all the independents. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: If no other MPs change their position every single Tory who opposed it yesterday would need to vote for it. 3 Labour members and 4 independents voted for it, bit surprised it was that few. She's fucked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Miguel Sanchez said: We still wouldn't be in the EU mate, Spain wouldn't let us. Nah, I'm all for it. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Bit dubious source but it looks like May will have a 3rd go at her shitty deal.[/url] https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1105932337202774018 They are even saying that if that fails she'll try for MV4. It's just utter contemptuous behaviour and sums up what an antiquated piece of shit Westminster is. As has been said before the UK constitution is not worth the paper it is not written on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: When push comes to shove there's no way any Ulster Unionist could support the back stop because it would lead inexorably to UI. Think the bigger issue is the pro-Brexit fringe that Labour has and all the independents. Gove threatened them with direct rule today after a hard brexit, which is more likely to lead to a border poll than a back stop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 They are even saying that if that fails she'll try for MV4. It's just utter contemptuous behaviour and sums up what an antiquated piece of shit Westminster is. As has been said before the UK constitution is not worth the paper it is not written on. Apparently Bercow can stop it being voted on a third time if there is no significant change to the bill under the rules and standing orders of the house. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 As has been the case yesterday and today, the amendments that can be inflicted onto tomorrow's motion will be key on where we go from here. Hopefully the motion can be amended in some way that forces the seeking of an extension into one that's for the purposes of a referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 43 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Bit dubious source but it looks like May will have a 3rd go at her shitty deal. https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1105932337202774018 I’m sure Steve Baker said in Parliament that he and others wouldn’t be supporting her deal next week, perhaps I misheard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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