tarapoa Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 5 Live this afternoon came from The Clep Bar in Dundee as they travel the country to gauge the mood ahead of such a key event for the nation.Woman interviewed -“None of us really understand what any of it means. I think we just want it over with.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, tarapoa said: 5 Live this afternoon came from The Clep Bar in Dundee as they travel the country to gauge the mood ahead of such a key event for the nation. Woman interviewed - “None of us really understand what any of it means. I think we just want it over with.” Are you sure she wasn’t interviewed in the House of Commons? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_62 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Barnsley seems nice then... ETA apologies if already posted. This thread moves at a rate of knots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Rubin Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Surely the most sensible solution would be as follows: 1) UK voted leave but there was question marks as to what Leave entailed. 2) Hold a people vote with 3 options. a) Brexit with single market, CU type offering. b) May's deal. c) No deal Brexit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 What sort of complete moron isn’t well versed on Brexit by now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Not sure on the source of this article, but it sounds exactly like the kind of thing that could happen which makes me think it's genuine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 50 minutes ago, tarapoa said: 5 Live this afternoon came from The Clep Bar in Dundee as they travel the country to gauge the mood ahead of such a key event for the nation. Woman interviewed - “None of us really understand what any of it means. I think we just want it over with.” "Would you not be more comfortable in the Snug, dear" said the Clep Bar (in 1980) A great pint, but an extremely misogynistic attitude to women in the public bar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 36 minutes ago, Billy Rubin said: Surely the most sensible solution would be as follows: 1) UK voted leave but there was question marks as to what Leave entailed. 2) Hold a people vote with 3 options. a) Brexit with single market, CU type offering. b) May's deal. c) No deal Brexit. No remain option in any vote. Once in a Generation vote. 2 and a half years is not a Generation. Socialism does not like Demoracy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, sureiknow said: Socialism does not like Demoracy. Socialism does not like incorrect spelling. What a bunch of bostards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sureiknow Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said: Socialism does not like incorrect spelling. What a bunch of bostards. Probably don't right enough! We were given a clear choice. Leave or remain. We have to and must leave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, sureiknow said: Probably don't right enough! We were given a clear choice. Leave or remain. We have to and must leave. Why should we flee? What's happened? What have they done? Edited February 26, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Barnsley seems nice then... ETA apologies if already posted. This thread moves at a rate of knots. Was that not filmed the day after the referendum. Vaguely remember seeing it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, dee_62 said: Barnsley seems nice then... ETA apologies if already posted. This thread moves at a rate of knots. I've gave up making excuses for folk. Just gonnae generalise all leave voters are either racist c***s or gullible thick c***s. Fed up pandering to their pish 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Cerberus said: What sort of complete moron isn’t well versed on Brexit by now? The clever folk admit they still don't understsnd Brexit. It's extremely complicated, and should never have been put to a referendum In The first place 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: Not sure on the source of this article, but it sounds exactly like the kind of thing that could happen which makes me think it's genuine. A totally unpalletable situation if you ask me.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Sums up the newspaper readers nicely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 So as I gather, there could be up to 3 votes in the commons. Vote 1: 12th March rematch of the vote on May's deal (If yes wins, May's deal is implemented. If no, vote 2 happens the next day) Vote 2: 13th March vote on leaving without a deal (If yes wins, we leave without a deal. If no, vote 3 happens the next day) Vote 3: Vote on whether to ask the EU to extend article 50 However if parliament was to vote no on all 3 votes, or votes no-no-yes but then the EU say no to an extension then we resort to leaving without a deal on 29th March. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 5 Live this afternoon came from The Clep Bar in Dundee as they travel the country to gauge the mood ahead of such a key event for the nation.Woman interviewed -“None of us really understand what any of it means. I think we just want it over with.”UEFA Nations League? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Rubin Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Donathan said: So as I gather, there could be up to 3 votes in the commons. Vote 1: 12th March rematch of the vote on May's deal (If yes wins, May's deal is implemented. If no, vote 2 happens the next day) Vote 2: 13th March vote on leaving without a deal (If yes wins, we leave without a deal. If no, vote 3 happens the next day) Vote 3: Vote on whether to ask the EU to extend article 50 However if parliament was to vote no on all 3 votes, or votes no-no-yes but then the EU say no to an extension then we resort to leaving without a deal on 29th March. What if vote 1 gathered more support than vote 2 ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Billy Rubin said: What if vote 1 gathered more support than vote 2 ? The difficulty is that it's three independent binary yes/no votes which could hypothetically all be rejected. Currently there are 638 MPs who can vote out of 650. The speaker doesn't vote nor do his 3 deputies and the 7 the Sinn Fein MPs, and there's 1 vacant seat due to the death of Labour MP Paul Flynn. Those 638 are split as follows (Backed/didn't back May's deal): Tories: 313 (198/115) Labour: 244 (2/242) SNP: 35 (0/35) TIG: 11 (0/11) Lib Dems: 11 (0/11) DUP: 10 (0/10) Plaid Cymru: 4 (0/4) Greens: 1 (0/1) Other independents: 9 (4/5) Total: 638 (204/434) Now, some back of a fag packet arithmetic. The more pro-EU Tories who didn't back the deal in Soubry, Allan and Woolaston have defected to TIG now, so I'm going to go ahead and say the remaining 115 rebels and the 10 DUP MPs are more right wingers who'd vote through a no deal. All of the parties from the SNP down, and the 5 independents who failed to back to original deal are largely remain supporters along with the majority of Labour MPs. Then you've got the 204 MPs who back the May deal. So parliament is split into 3 factions at the moment: May's deal: 204 No deal: 125 Referendum/Delay article 50/call a GE etc: 309 Obviously that's massively simplistic as it doesn't account for things like Labour MPs who voted against the May deal but also don't want a referendum like Kate Hoey, but for the sake of simplicity let's consider these three groups. Vote 1 will clearly go a similar way to the first attempt at it given that the deal being voted on will have barely if at all changed. The 204 will vote in favour and the other 3 groups will vote against. Now, the second vote will be even more clear cut as every non-Tory/DUP/rightwing IND in the house will vote against no-deal along with probably a good portion of May supporters. I'd expect the no deal vote to get 150 yes votes maximum. This probably means article 50 will end up being delayed. The 309 on their own won't be enough to carry this through but I'd bet enough May supporters will hold their noses and vote for a delay rather than a no deal. The big question ends up being whether the EU will agree to extend article 50 without either a GE or a 2nd referendum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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