NotThePars Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 A looming No Deal will probably see severe reactions from the markets which will discipline enough MPs to vote anything through that prevents it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Boris saying May should surgically remove the backstop then go to the EU and get a deal. Yip that's a serious suggestion from a possible future PM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden God Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Corbyn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, sophia said: one hour, forty five minutes and 50 seconds in we have the estimable Graham Cowie of the Commons Library guiding us through the labyrinthine procedural lanes. He's a natural for radio! That was a really clear exposition of the procedures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Genuinely looking forward to seeing what shitshow May comes back with in three days time in the likely event she wins the VoNC. Looking forward to getting to the point where she sincerely states she's going to get further reassurances on the backstop again and no head of state or EU official don't even bothers their arse meeting her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Detournement said: The weird thing is the DUP would have been up for a No Confidence Vote if the deal had passed. Btw note no one is talking about a 70% majority. You're right about the 2/3rds majority not being needed after a VONC, it only applies for a vote for a General Election. This is all new territory after the Fixed Terms Act. This is what the Guardian thinks would happen if May lost the vote tomorrow: Quote What happens if Labour wins? There would not be an immediate election; instead, there would be a period of 14 calendar days in which the government can seek to regain the confidence of MPs, or else another government can be formed. If this does not happen, then parliament will be dissolved, with the standard 25 working-day gap needed before the election is held. The act does not state precisely what can happen in this period, and since the provision has not yet been used, it remains unclear how, if at all, this grace period could potentially be used to form a very different government, for example a coalition or a minority Labour administration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Batshit mental 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I thought we held all the cards already? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Easiest deal in history 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Batshit mental Unbelievable, he surely doesnt actually believe that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Big Fifer said: With the DUP, the conservatives have a majority of 327 to 323, is it really that mental that a couple of conservative MP's vote the other way? If there was any chance of that happening certain Labour MPs would abstain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Corbyn trying to whip himself into a frenzy tonight in the house was like watching Phil Thompson on Sky Soccer Saturday. If he fails in his no-Confidence bid to force a GE, will he resign btw? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I am convinced some folk on here only read snippets of the news. The EU will only extend Article 50 if there is good cause; they have said so from Day 1. ‘Good cause’ includes a GE or another referendum. As with every other EU position they will not change; the size of tonight’s defeat will only reinforce that. Note: whilst the ECJ decision allows the U.K. to unilaterally revoke Article 50, every other individual EU country has to agree to an extension. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Corbyn trying to whip himself into a frenzy tonight in the house was like watching Phil Thompson on Sky Soccer Saturday. If he fails in his no-Confidence bid to force a GE, will he resign btw? The principle issue being the DUP's immutable hostility to Corbyn. As a man in tune with Ra Peepul, how many verses of the Sash would Corbyn need to learn to get them onside? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Corbyn trying to whip himself into a frenzy tonight in the house was like watching Phil Thompson on Sky Soccer Saturday. If he fails in his no-Confidence bid to force a GE, will he resign btw? May loses a vital vote by 230 and stays but you’re asking if Corbyn will resign if he loses a VoC. Are you drunk or stupid? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, renton said: The principle issue being the DUP's immutable hostility to Corbyn. As a man in tune with Ra Peepul, how many verses of the Sash would Corbyn need to learn to get them onside? Watching Corbyn and Macdonald giving the DUP a hopeful and caring glance every time they complain about the backstop have been some of the more amusing moments in this circus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Corbyn trying to whip himself into a frenzy tonight in the house was like watching Phil Thompson on Sky Soccer Saturday. If he fails in his no-Confidence bid to force a GE, will he resign btw? He should resign if only for his ineptitude and incompetence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I am convinced some folk on here only read snippets of the news. The EU will only extend Article 50 if there is good cause; they have said so from Day 1. ‘Good cause’ includes a GE or another referendum. As with every other EU position they will not change; the size of tonight’s defeat will only reinforce that. Note: whilst the ECJ decision allows the U.K. to unilaterally revoke Article 50, every other individual EU country has to agree to an extension. It's nothing about reading snippets, TBF. The entire reporting of this process from day 1 has been utterly disingenuous. Unilateral decisions made on our part have been taken as read, stuff that has been decided but is entirely dependant on a deal has been reported as a default position, and UK policy that hasn't been given the green light by the EU side has been run with as if agreed. Everyone is guilty of it. The press, the government and the opposition. Yesterday I was on the government website to find out how our Spanish staff will be treated in April and it was full of information about having to register for settled status which will keep them going until the transition period is finished in March 2021! What fucking transition period! It's one of the many reasons that people are walking into this catastrophe blind. "Business as usual" is a term I heard alot when my last company was merged into another. It just meant that when stuff actually happened everyone was completely ill prepared for the clusterfuck that occurred when the button got pressed. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Fek. That was close.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 The idea Corbyn would resign now & take away any attention on May is for the birdsThe most blatant case of wishful thinking in a long and illustrious thread of wishful thinking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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