DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 That would need to be negotiated. EEA has free movement which would mean that model couldn't be implemented as even David Cameron came back with an emergency brake option.What's a 'lot Brexiters'?You assume my ignorance, yours is quite clear.You said that Leave meant leaving the Single Market.At no point were we asked that.Of course it is ignorance that there are still people out there who think that Leave means you have to leave the Single Market as well.The reality is that if we continue the route we are we will be the only European country bar the Vatican who will not have a direct relationship with either the Single Market or Customs Union.And even the Vatican has an indirect relationship through its neighbour Italy.In an age of global capitalism which transcends borders it is an absolute necessity to have these sorts of relationships as a bare minimum.We could have gone down the soft Brexit route but haven't because of a spineless Prime Minister who was not prepared to stand up to the shitebags in her own party. A soft Brexit would have satisfied a majority in both Parliament and in the electorate. The problem now is that we are way past the stage where we could go for soft Brexit.The tail has well and truly wagged the dog in this debate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The reality is that if we continue the route we are we will be the only European country bar the Vatican who will not have a direct relationship with either the Single Market or Customs Union. Don't forget Belarus, we'll probably join them as the only countries to ignore European Court of Human Rights judgements as well. We'll be pals! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Aye, the SNP haven't ever staged any stunts in the commons after all.You’ve been coming across as a bit of a stunt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Great to see Comrade Jezza snatching defeat from the jaws of victory again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: You’ve been coming across as a bit of a stunt. A cunning stunt? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 This is turning into a bit of a farce. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-Toon Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: You said that Leave meant leaving the Single Market. At no point were we asked that. Of course it is ignorance that there are still people out there who think that Leave means you have to leave the Single Market as well. The reality is that if we continue the route we are we will be the only European country bar the Vatican who will not have a direct relationship with either the Single Market or Customs Union. And even the Vatican has an indirect relationship through its neighbour Italy. In an age of global capitalism which transcends borders it is an absolute necessity to have these sorts of relationships as a bare minimum. We could have gone down the soft Brexit route but haven't because of a spineless Prime Minister who was not prepared to stand up to the shitebags in her own party. A soft Brexit would have satisfied a majority in both Parliament and in the electorate. The problem now is that we are way past the stage where we could go for soft Brexit. The tail has well and truly wagged the dog in this debate. A lot of people said that - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fDn0MvcHQ4 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Don't forget Belarus, we'll probably join them as the only countries to ignore European Court of Human Rights judgements as well. We'll be pals!Scotland, The Vatican and Belarus is our next Nations League group. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Great to see Comrade Jezza snatching defeat from the jaws of victory again Defeat from the jaws of defeat might be closer to the truth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: Scotland, The Vatican and Belarus is our next Nations League group. I think we've got a good chance of second. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: I think if anyone is expecting the Labour Party to conjure up a path out of the current mayhem then they're wasting their time. As I've already written on here, Corbyn is precisely the wrong man at the wrong time; an ideologue as opposed to a politician. Listening to him again berating May today I was reminded of Denis Healey's memorable put-down of Geoffrey Howe. We may well be falling for May's deal by default, and if there is any serious risk of a No Deal materialising I would expect the business community to rattle the UK Government far harder than anyone in Westminster. There's actually now a growing desire on my part to let them do their worst just to see the reaction of Little Britain as the horrors begin to unfold. Jeremy Corbyn is popular in the Labour Party because of his position on the political spectrum. For example, he is not likely to invade Iraq or Libya or anything like that and he is in favour of nice things and so on. However, he is reading from a script and one that was written decades ago. He doesn't want to talk about Brexit because there was a time when the Labour Party was against Europe, he was part of that and he does not want to be described as a turncoat. We are talking about a part of the politic spectrum where suspicion, paranoia and accusations of betrayal are rife. While I might agree with him on a lot of things, he is just an incredibly weak leader. Edited December 17, 2018 by Fullerene 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Fullerene said: Jeremy Corbyn is popular in the Labour Party because of his position on the political spectrum. For example, he is not likely to invade Iraq or Libya or anything like that and he is in favour of nice things and so on. However, he is reading from a script and one that was written decades ago. He doesn't want to talk about Brexit because there was a time when the Labour Party was against Europe, he was part of that and he does not want to be described as a turncoat. We are talking about a part of the politic spectrum where suspicion, paranoia and accusations of betrayal are rife. While I might agree with him on a lot of things, he is just an incredibly weak leader. If Labour had a half decent leader they would walk the next GE. But under Corbyn they be a minority government at best. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 The SNP and other opposition parties will table an amendment to Labours motion to ask for no confidence in Gov rather than PM apparently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 The SNP and other opposition parties will table an amendment to Labours motion to ask for no confidence in Gov rather than PM apparently. It is done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fullerene said: However, he is reading from a script and one that was written decades ago. He doesn't want to talk about Brexit because there was a time when the Labour Party was against Europe, he was part of that and he does not want to be described as a turncoat. We should join Hoxha and Lukashenko in a Collectivist/Syndicalist alternative to the EU. The rest will join up when they get woke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Once again May has refused to say that her deal is better than staying in the EU. Yet she has the audacity to talk about the national interest. What sort of PM champions a proposal that leaves the country worse off? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 One who enjoys inflicting pain on the poor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) The Tories used to call themselves the party of business, now they're the party of hedge funders and speculators who have taken massive bets on the UK tanking, which they've already done well out of but they want to go the whole way. Edited December 17, 2018 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Opposition parties now calling for the official main opposition party to call a VONC in the Government 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 You’ve been coming across as a bit of a stunt. A cunning stunt?Original 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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