Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Just now, welshbairn said: I thought you were last saying another vote would be a betrayal of democracy and there would be blood on the streets? Merry Brexmas! Indeed he did 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 I thought you were last saying another vote would be a betrayal of democracy and there would be blood on the streets? Merry Brexmas!I did say that some people might take to streets but how is that relevant to my prediction of ext A50, another vote and no brexit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 Indeed he didShut it ya servile tart [emoji8] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 The SNP could try and force a no confidence vote but given Anna Soubry publicly stated her support for one while simultaneously claiming she’d back May it would be fairly obvious that it was a ploy to force another referendum. Barring a WWE style shocking face turn, the rebel Tories aren’t going to join the opposition until the Brexit deal goes to a vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Just now, John Lambies Doos said: Shut it ya servile tart You are a moron 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 You are a moronAway and have a mince pie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Plain as a pikestaff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Granny Danger said: There must be a growing number of Corbyn supporters who are growing restless at his ineptitude. Maybe they would be more vocal of it didn’t mean appearing to side with Tony Warcriminal Blair. Agree with this, but have to add I find myself more and more agreeing with every word Blair has to say on the subject. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Agree with this, but have to add I find myself more and more agreeing with every word Blair has to say on the subject. I don't disagree, but having such a discredited politician trying to lecture people doesn't help the cause IMO. Particularly when the folk who need to be convinced are those who dislike him most - and with good reason. His motivation is also questionable. He has proven himself to be a self-serving, money grubbing individual and his intervention is purely for personal promotion and gain. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: How many different predictions have you made? He's been fairly consistent with that one of late. (Without re-reading this thread from the start - only Theresa May is that big a masochist - I can't confirm if it's always been his stance.) I also postulated at one stage that we wouldn't leave. The EU have stated it's this deal or no deal. They must be gullible and/or swallowed Project Fear, too. Edited December 14, 2018 by Jacksgranda sllepnig 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Some c**t on Sky news just compared no deal Brexit preparations to putting together the Falklands taskforce. It's just so fucking depressing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Robert Peston's take. Quote Here is the measure of Theresa May’s failure last night - according to an observer of her request to EU leaders for “assurances” that UK membership of the EU backstop would be finite and of short duration. They were ready to help. They assumed a process of officials agreeing a text over coming week would start today, to give her the necessary words that would persuade Tory and DUP critics of her deal to ultimately support it. But it was during the course of questioning her that they concluded such a process - such an extension of talks - would be a total waste of time. Why? Well according to one observer of the conversation between May and the EU27 leaders, “she could not say what would actually deliver a majority in parliament for her”. Why on earth could and should they start talks in the absence of knowing what May actually wants? The other things she could not give them comfort on were 1. could Northern Ireland’s DUP MPs, who keep her in power, ever be brought round? 2. when would it be best for the EU to actually provide the assurances she wants? 3. And in the words of one EU leader, wouldn’t it have been better for the PM to build a majority for some version of the Brexit deal BEFORE asking for their help? This impasse, this debacle, means the PM faces a deeply painful and humiliating choice. She either now has to admit failure to parliament and ask MPs what kind of Brexit or even no-Brexit they want. This would be to surrender all pretence that she is in charge of the process and somehow restyle herself as head of a government of national unity. And with the clocking running down till Brexit day on 29 March, she probably does not have the luxury of waiting till after Christmas to make this pivot of all pivots. Or she will have to continue with her conceit that the alternative to her Brexit is ONLY a no-deal Brexit and somehow make the best of that - however much she fears that would make millions of people poorer. The stakes could not be higher - for her and us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 He's been fairly consistent with that one of late. (Without re-reading this thread from the start - only Theresa May is that big a masochist - I can't confirm if it's always been his stance.) I also postulated at one stage that we wouldn't leave. The EU have stated it's this deal or no deal. They must be gullible and/or swallowed Project Fear, too.Cheers , another poster I wind up but have a lot of time for you... Merry Christmas old chap [emoji319] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 Some c**t on Sky news just compared no deal Brexit preparations to putting together the Falklands taskforce. It's just so fucking depressing.Heard that.... 2 fucking days it took. Wow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tony Ferrino said: Some c**t on Sky news just compared no deal Brexit preparations to putting together the Falklands taskforce. It's just so fucking depressing. If we do finish up with a peoples vote, they'll need to put a Falklands style taskforce into operation to quell the rioting hardcore brexiteers - and that would just be in Burnley FFS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Fullerene said: KingRocketMan II, you need to understand ... Whenever a politician says "clearly" that means it is not. let me be frank, and I want to be clear here, waffle, waffle, cliche, waffle, waffle, Brexit means Brexit...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 let me be frank, and I want to be clear here, waffle, waffle, cliche, waffle, waffle, Brexit means Brexit......Red, White and Blue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46564884 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46564884 Might be £6.30 just now but it given the way the pound is going it could soon be £7.00 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 Might be £6.30 just now but it given the way the pound is going it could soon be £7.00 Will people in Burnley care though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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