GiGi Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 minute ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Labour have simply followed Sun Tzu's advice - "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake". Aye thats right Jezza is writing the modern day art of war by, err, consistently losing to the worst PM in British history. True genius. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: 15 minutes ago, jupe1407 said: Sakes. You've been trolling here long enough to know that particular bait is shite and doesn't work. Couldn't care less. It's got a fairly large grain of truth in it. Pretending no Nats can see the usefulness of a Tory at No10 is cobblers. I remember a fair few too busy mocking Labours Scottish meltdown to care about Cameron popping back into No10. You guys should take the halo off occasionally. Don't start rolling out the old line about the SNP putting Cameron in number 10. Labour in Scotland melted because they're shitebags who don't give a f**k about Scotland. They still don't. And their leadership is useless at UK and Scottish levels. Has been for ages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, Londonwell said: You want an end to Universal Credit? Then bring down the Gov or vote for an independent Scotland. Corbyn isn't interested in either. How many times would you like the Leader and his Shadow Cabinet to say it? Labour's principal aim is absolutely to bring down the Government. If you think it isn't you really, really haven't been paying attention. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 There are, of course, idiotic ScotNats who like the idea of Tories in No10 as it helps indy, but that's no different from the BritNats so blinded by their unionism. I'd rather have neither party at the moment, given both of them want to take us right off the edge of a cliff, and that shouldn't just be an opinion put on ScotNats.Apparently your first point is not true as I am repeatedly told.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, Londonwell said: The Tories are more popular than Labour in Scotland at the moment fyi. ETA: meant to quote trolldave's post. I wonder why that is? As Scotland has a third major party in politics, Labour voters have gone to SNP making Labour collapse. The Tories retain their rump support and always will. Of course you do know that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: As my previous answer - listen to the man, rather than the skewed image presented to you. As with Trident, his personal beliefs are second to the Party policy. So Corbyn has come out since the referendum and said that actually he does want to leave then? What are you talking about. You seem to like Corbyn because you believe he has the interests of the vulnerable at heart. Hate to break it to you chum, Brexit ain’t gonna be too kind to them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: I wonder why that is? As Scotland has a third major party in politics, Labour voters have gone to SNP making Labour collapse. The Tories retain their rump support and always will. Of course you do know that. Maybe Labour shouldn't be such a shitshow then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Don't start rolling out the old line about the SNP putting Cameron in number 10. Labour in Scotland melted because they're shitebags who don't give a f**k about Scotland. They still don't. And their leadership is useless at UK and Scottish levels. Has been for ages. Point out where I "rolled that out" and you win £5..Knee Jerk Nat response. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, Londonwell said: So Corbyn has come out since the referendum and said that actually he does want to leave then? What are you talking about. You seem to like Corbyn because you believe he has the interests of the vulnerable at heart. Hate to break it to you chum, Brexit ain’t gonna be too kind to them. Nope. He has said that Labour will respect the result of the referendum. The only way he can serve the electorate in the current circumstances is by either: 1. Forcing a change of Government and renegotiating with the EU (in an extended A50 period) 2. Forcing the issue of a people's vote/ref2 3. Following a GE, cancelling A50 unilaterally. None of these is in his gift at the moment, and unlike many (most) politicians, he's not given to making wild promises or committing to hypothetical situations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: How many times would you like the Leader and his Shadow Cabinet to say it? Labour's principal aim is absolutely to bring down the Government. If you think it isn't you really, really haven't been paying attention. They must just be really shite at it then, eh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Enjoyable stuff from Westminster. Really enjoy listening to the radio. This morning was Radio 5 Live talking about immigration. There was a (surprise, surprise) cockney lorry driver on who voted leave because of immigration. He says he once saw people jumping off the back of a lorry. Forget any arguments about customs unions, money, law, democracy - this guy saw people jump off a lorry. That was it, enough. Voted leave, wants as hard a brexit as possible, wants out now, etc. Lovely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: I wonder why that is? As Scotland has a third major party in politics, Labour voters have gone to SNP making Labour collapse. The Tories retain their rump support and always will. Of course you do know that. The SNP hoovered up a lot of Labour voters as labour went chasing the Middle Class, forgetting its roots. The Greens got my vote a couple of times for the same reason. Now that Labour have rediscovered Socialism, the SNP are having to deal with the competition for votes from those Scots for whom independence is not their number one priority. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Corbyn respects the result of the referendum. He could attack the illegal spending, the potential outside interference and the lies told before it and question the validity of said result and have good reason to do so. He doesn't want to do that though. This blind faith in Corbyn is both hilarious and sad at the same time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, scottsdad said: Enjoyable stuff from Westminster. Really enjoy listening to the radio. This morning was Radio 5 Live talking about immigration. There was a (surprise, surprise) cockney lorry driver on who voted leave because of immigration. He says he once saw people jumping off the back of a lorry. Forget any arguments about customs unions, money, law, democracy - this guy saw people jump off a lorry. That was it, enough. Voted leave, wants as hard a brexit as possible, wants out now, etc. Lovely. Hope somebody asked him why EU immigrants that he's trying to stop didn't just take the ferry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, Principal Flutie said: Corbyn respects the result of the referendum. He could attack the illegal spending, the potential outside interference and the lies told before it and question the validity of said result and have good reason to do so. He doesn't want to do that though. This blind faith in Corbyn is both hilarious and sad at the same time. Any blind faith is dangerous wether it is the likes of Corbyn or Sturgeon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Now that Labour have rediscovered Socialism, the SNP are having to deal with the competition for votes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Londonwell said: They must just be really shite at it then, eh. Either that, or they've been challenging a Government with a working majority - and whips who hold a fuúck load of skeletons to keep the backbench in line. Now that is no longer the case, let's see how the cards fall and how they respond. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, BawWatchin said: Leaving the cherrypicking of a partial quote aside, do the SNP have as many seats as they did two years ago? No? did they just give the seats away then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Since the vote, he's had to balance all sorts of opinions and aims within the Party, let alone the wider electorate. Imho, the leadership team have played a blinder by simply allowing the Tories to pull themselves to pieces, as May made it quite clear this clusterfuck was to be a Government project - rejecting all offers of cross-party co-operation from Labour, SNP, Plaid, Lib Dems and others. She wanted ownership - let the bitch keep it. Labour have simply followed Sun Tzu's advice - "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake". That's the most deluded thing I've heard in quite some time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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