Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

[welshbairn]

3 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

The "Stay in the Single Market/Customs Union = It’s goes against the result of the vote" is the one that really gets on my nerves.

If she had the guts to challenge this in the first place then she would not be in trouble in the first place. I have absolutely f**k all sympathy for her.

Boris and Farage promised we could stay in the single market if we voted Leave.

[Granny Danger]

Remember when Theresa May called an election and promised “strong and stable government”?

How’s that going Theresa?

 

[J_Stewart]

Is Brexit the stupidest, most unnecessary shambles a civilised society has ever subjected itself to?

Yes.

Are 99.9% of the population going to be worse off both financially and in terms of lifestyle?

Yes.

Even with all that in mind, is it still fucking hilarious watching those vile, selfish, ignorant, arrogant, moronic charlatans in the Tory party implode and repeatedly stab each other in the back?

Absofuckinglutely Yes.

 

I'm obviously not saying that Brexit is a price worth paying to watch the Tories self-destructing, because it's obviously demonstrably not, but at least we're getting to enjoy something from this utter omnishambles. Never going to happen, but fingers crossed Maybot the Cyborg gets binned, and whoever takes over "brings in their own person" for Secretary of State for Scotland and that snivelling coward Fluffy gets scrapheaped.  For him to weasel his way out of resigning, and then get bodied anyway would be utterly, utterly glorious.

[FFCinthearea]

I'm still convinced that this is never going to happen.  This is all an elaborate ploy between the EU and UK,  going through the motions as everyone knew from the start that it was never going to work.

Edited November 16, 2018 by FFCinthearea

[Savage Henry]

5 minutes ago, GiGi said:

How does a democratic vote go against a democratic vote?

Here, people of the UK. With 2 years of additional facts and material evidence of what various forms of brexit would mean for the country, do you still think leaving the EU is the best course of action?

That's what needs to happen. There's nothing undemocratic about asking for a vote after the facts as opposed to before and steaming ahead regardless. 

Even if it means the Tories losing power, they really need to offer a second referendum.  Some things ought to be viewed as a bit more important than the state of the party.

And really, the only people getting pissed off the principle of a second referendum are gammon folk from the Home Counties, and internet trolls.

[git-intae-thum]

2 minutes ago, FFCinthearea said:

I'm still convinced that this is ever going to happen.  This is all an elaborate ploy between the EU and UK going through the motions as everyone knew from the start that it was never going to work.

Wish there was some truth in that....

[git-intae-thum]

Where was Mundell at PMQT.

Is he hiding in a cupboard somewhere

[banana]

While UK politics goes into meltdown, the usual verminile EU bureaucrats and Merkel are happy with the 'progress' being made.

Stitched up like a kipper by our 'friendly' neighbours.

Edited November 15, 2018 by banana

[Ivo den Bieman]

Just now, banana said:

While UK politics goes into meltdown, the usual verminile EU bureaucrats and Merkel are happy with the 'progress' being made.

Stitched up like a kipper by out 'friendly' neighbours.

 

[btb]

5 hours ago, btb said:

So it comes down to TM finessing her Cabinet Ministers on both sides of the argument - it feels like a game of Kerplunk with TM one stick away from a massive cascade!

 

 

Called it!

Edited November 15, 2018 by btb

[Kyle]

Just now, banana said:

While UK politics goes into meltdown, the usual verminile EU bureaucrats and Merkel are happy with the 'progress' being made.

Stitched up like a kipper by out 'friendly' neighbours.

They're on the other side of the negotiation and want what's best for them. Seeing as it seems they've dictated pretty much everything in the agreement, it's hardly surprising they're happy with the result!  

[banana]

Just now, Ivo den Bieman said:

[Ivo den Bieman]

Rarely seen a PM as friendless in the House of Commons. Other than a few remaining toadies, the questions have been unremittingly hostile.

If she was as good at governing as she was at kicking the can down the road, we'd be out by now. But she never has been.

[Guest]

ONLY 2 OPTIONS FROM HERE.

OPTION 1 -- New leadership team of JRM, Boris etc and a 100% hard Brexit.

OPTION 2 -- 2nd Referendum where "Remain" must win and a return to the old status quo.

There's no doubt that this whole episode including today's resignations is all a carefully contrived plan to force this 2nd referendum, which, in their minds, will make all the bad things go away.

There are no "good" options to be honest and I'm pretty sure "option 1" would trigger a 2nd Scottish referendum in which the "Yes" vote would undoubtedly have a landslide.

The bottom line is that politics across this whole country is a shambles and the word "crisis" is now very apt.

Thanks David................

[Antiochas III]

3 minutes ago, banana said:

While UK politics goes into meltdown, the usual verminile EU bureaucrats and Merkel are happy with the 'progress' being made.

Stitched up like a kipper by our 'friendly' neighbours.

Aye those pesky neighbours of ours forcing the UK to hold an in/out referendum then forcing us to vote out...  

 

[banana]

Just now, Kyle said:

They're on the other side of the negotiation and want what's best for them. Seeing as it seems they've dictated pretty much everything in the agreement, it's hardly surprising they're happy with the result!  

Well, exactly. Given where we are, that March is looming, they're fighting their corner as they should. We're continuing to utterly shit the bed 

[Ross.]

8 minutes ago, FFCinthearea said:

I'm still convinced that this is ever going to happen.  This is all an elaborate ploy between the EU and UK,  going through the motions as everyone knew from the start that it was never going to work.

 

7 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

Wish there was some truth in that....

There are a lot of very senior people at banks across Europe who, while planning for a worst case scenario, believe that in the end it won't go ahead. The problem is though, that they are planning for the worst case scenario and those plans are largely bought and paid for, so whatever happens in the long term it has already and will continue to cost the UK some serious dough.

[Boghead ranter]

This thread is adding pages at a pace not seen since peak BRALT. 

[Kyle]

Peak bralt was a new page every 2 minutes. That was probably peak P&B  before it became an empty shell of a thread. This brexit caper is some laugh though - JRM's letter of no confidence is apparently in.

[RedRob72]

How does a democratic vote go against a democratic vote?
Here, people of the UK. With 2 years of additional facts and material evidence of what various forms of brexit would mean for the country, do you still think leaving the EU is the best course of action?
That's what needs to happen. There's nothing undemocratic about asking for a vote after the facts as opposed to before and steaming ahead regardless. 

I’m not suggesting I’m against that personally, you understand? I’d be happy with a 2nd vote with a much clearer picture to consider (in terms of the consequences of leaving) than two years ago. There is also clearly a demand for this option.
The opposition to a 2nd vote on the grounds that the country has already decided by a recognisable majority, is equally as strong for many of the electorate however. We’re quickly at stalemate on this one.
Isn’t going to happen and therefore cannot be considered a serious solution as we approach March 2019.