Brexit slowly becoming a Farce.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

Was he this bad as HB?

Worse. Although at least then it was entirely directly at Supras. He was pretty obsessed tbh. Ruined many a thread on Misc Footy

[Detournement]

15 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Spain and Portugal were hit nearly as badly as Greece by the crash/theft. They have recovered and current growth rates are very healthy.

33% youth unemployment in Spain. Some recovery.

 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Aye our best chance of getting a deal is that Macron has a banker's hand up his arse at all times.
I doubt many of the EPP types are keen on a Corbyn government either.

Northern Rock still hurting?

[Detournement]

Just now, DeeTillEhDeh said:

1 hour ago, Detournement said:

Aye our best chance of getting a deal is that Macron has a banker's hand up his arse at all times.
I doubt many of the EPP types are keen on a Corbyn government either.

Northern Rock still hurting?

I've never owned a share in my life.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo]

5 minutes ago, Detournement said:

33% youth unemployment in Spain. Some recovery.

 

https://tradingeconomics.com/spain/youth-unemployment-rate

It was 55% 5 years ago. I'd say that's a significant recovery. 

[Detournement]

Aye it's a great achievement for the EU.....

[Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo]

2 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Aye it's a great achievement for the EU.....

Still a recovery though. You were claiming otherwise.

[Detournement]

1 minute ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said:

Still a recovery though. You were claiming otherwise.

It's an improvement but it's not a recovery.

33% youth unemployment is terrible.

[DA Baracus]

Imagine actually being bothered in any way where people want to live and work, the vast majority of whom you won't ever be aware of, let alone ever come close to being in contact with 

People should be allowed to live and work wherever they want.

[Detournement]

Just now, DA Baracus said:

 

People should be allowed to live and work wherever they want.

Open borders?

[sparky88]

9 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Aye it's a great achievement for the EU.....

The leave campaign didnt even argue that leaving the EU was economically beneficial- best they could do was the 350m claim, which even ignoring the fact its a lie, is a tiny amount of money to a trillion pound economy. 

Edited September 21, 2018 by sparky88

[Detournement]

I'd say that EU membership is less important than domestic policy.

In or out most people would be better off with a government that strengthens workers rights, enforces a proper living wage,  properly funds public services and invests in the economy.

 

[Fullerene]

1 minute ago, sparky88 said:

The leave campaign didnt even argue that leaving the EU was economically beneficial- best they could do was the 350m claim, which even ignoring the fact its a lie, is a tiny amount of money to a trillion pound economy. 

.. and the day after the vote was won, they said "oh yeah - that - probably not going to happen" and yet nobody cries foul.

Seaview property in Aberfeldy anyone?  Lowest price guaranteed.  .. and a year's supply of snake oil.  Any takers?

[welshbairn]

35 minutes ago, Detournement said:

33% youth unemployment in Spain. Some recovery.

 

Youth unemployment figures in Spain have always been high, partly due to the black economy. It's coming down though.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/spain_youth_unemployment_rate_lfs

Edited September 21, 2018 by welshbairn

[LongTimeLurker]

Looks like a hard Brexit is unavoidable now given the leader of the opposition is not someone that can be depended on from a Remain sort of standpoint and the Tories are not going to want a general election any time soon. Spectacular own goal by the DUP to shore up a Tory government that is creating the conditions where a rational case can finally be made for calling for a united Ireland after well over a century of appeals to not much more than misty eyed Romanticism that left people whose face didn't fit in Irish nationalism's founding myths cold.

Independence in the EU now involves selling the concept of a hard border at Carlisle, so think the timeline on Scottish independence has been set back by a couple of decades, but time will tell. Tidal power in the Pentland Firth and pump-storage hydro in the Great Glen could be the way to build a prosperous future in more of a Scottish rather than a UK context even after the North Sea fossil fuels have had their day, so suspect there will still be plenty of wind in Scottish nationalism's sails in the decades ahead.  The electorate south of the border will also no doubt eventually see sense and opt to rejoin at some point once people grasp there is no captive imperial market any more to make the global trading option work to the UK's advantage, so the hard border thing will eventually go away again as a serious impediment.

Edited September 21, 2018 by LongTimeLurker

[git-intae-thum]

6 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Looks like a hard Brexit is unavoidable now given the leader of the opposition is not someone that can be depended on from a Remain sort of standpoint and the Tories are not going to want a general election any time soon. Spectacular own goal by the DUP to shore up a Tory government that is creating the conditions where a rational case can finally be made for calling for a united Ireland after well over a century of appeals to not much more than misty eyed Romanticism that left people whose face didn't fit in Irish nationalism's found myths cold.

Independence in the EU now involves selling the concept of a hard border at Carlisle, so think the timeline on Scottish independence has been set back by a couple of decades, but time will tell. Tidal power in the Pentland Firth and pump-storage hydro in the Great Glen could be the way to build a prosperous future in more of a Scottish rather than a UK context even after the North Sea fossil fuels have had their day, so suspect there will still be plenty of wind in Scottish nationalism's sails in the decades ahead.  The electorate south of the border will also no doubt eventually see sense and opt to rejoin at some point once people grasp there is no captive imperial market any more to make the global trading option work to the UK's advantage, so the hard border thing will eventually go away again as a serious impediment.

I think you are misjudging the thought processes of the Scottish public.

This was a panelbase poll in July:

 

 

People in Scotland want an EU deal the same as Westminter was planning for NI.

Now the EU have torpedoed that, but the logical conclusion once folk have thought this through, is independence and a border at the the Gretna-Berwick line.

If you listen to Rees Mogg, Johnson and Gove etc, the technology is available to stop this becoming too much of an issue.

Edited September 21, 2018 by git-intae-thum

[dorlomin]

1 hour ago, jupe1407 said:

2 hours ago, Bandstand said:

Was he this bad as HB?

Worse. Although at least then it was entirely directly at Supras. He was pretty obsessed tbh. Ruined many a thread on Misc Footy

Be specific now. 

[dorlomin]

[Zetterlund]

It occurred to me earlier that I've literally never heard Theresa May start a sentence which I haven't been able to complete in my head after she's spoken the first few words. Every time she speaks, you never know anything that you didn't know before she started. 

Tbh she sums up politics in the UK. Lots of meaningless words, soundbites, non-answers and no progress on anything that matters. Get the lot of them in the bin.

[dirty dingus]

FFS, They'll be calling up Dads Army by November at this rate. Time for Scotland to tell it's petulant neighbour to bolt.