ICTJohnboy Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Shandon Par said: Brexit campaign leaders getting it tight from Macron: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-talks-latest-eu-emmanuel-macron-brexiteer-liars-no-deal-a8547146.html Macron kind of stating the bleedin obvious here, but well said, nevertheless. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) I don't really understand the EU position here. They are going to risk a hard border in Ireland over the issue of the Irish border? The Tories have two red lines. UK constitutional integrity and freedom of movement. If the EU can't live with that then it'll be Hard Brexit. If the EU are gambling on the Second Referendum campaign being succesful it's a big gamble. Edited September 20, 2018 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 November summit not even guaranteed now. May needs something other than the Chequers plan in 3 weeks time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane's child Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Colkitto said: November summit not even guaranteed now. May needs something other than the Chequers plan in 3 weeks time No idea what happens next! Tory conference round the corner as well!! Edited September 20, 2018 by zidane's child 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 No idea what happens next! Tory conference round the corner as well!!It'll be a bloodbath. Can't wait tbh [emoji38] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Shandon Par said: Brexit campaign leaders getting it tight from Macron: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-talks-latest-eu-emmanuel-macron-brexiteer-liars-no-deal-a8547146.html Cue the Macron as Napoleon response from Little Englander types. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Cue Boris the Buffoon as next PM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 May is like the pet shop owner in the Python sketch refusing to acknowledge that Chequers is dead. “It’s not dead, it’s only resting...” 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Cue the Macron as Napoleon response from Little Englander types. That’s literally who Macron thinks he is anyway. That or his insane Jupiter nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 That's surely the writing on the wall for May - pretty much the only leverage she had over the party was her ability to deliver Chequers. You wonder if the thought process now is: If it must be hard Brexit, let's get a hard Brexiteer in to do it..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 It doesn't take much skill to drive off a cliff. I think she can manage it herself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 We may have a Labour government by April. May slammed down her "Chequers or nothing" and the EU has said that its not acceptable, everyone will want their own Chequers type deal if they let the UK have one. Now she has nothing for her back benchers. The hard Brexiters may attempt a coup but that will risk bringing down her government. If it falls then its all bets off which way the public jump. Its suicide for them to dump May as there is no one sane looking ready to step up, but their party is so deeply riven that its very likely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: Unacceptable plan is unacceptable. Blame the EU. I'm sure I've typed that numerous times over the last couple of years. Unelected BRUSSELS bureaucrats taking us for fools - get us OUT now and don't give them anything! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Miguel Sanchez said: Unelected BRUSSELS bureaucrats taking us for fools - get us OUT now and don't give them anything! Comparable to the BBC comments: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45586010 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I wonder if the great minds of the P&B politics forum can map out what happens next. Preferably one stage at a time. 1. Chequers, or nothing resembling Chequers, will be accepted by the EU as it breaches the four freedoms of the Single Market. Anyone disagree with that? 2. Assuming no one disagrees the ball is back in the U.K. court; what’s the next step? a) May resigns, then... b) It is tossed back to the U.K. Parliament, then.... c) ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I wonder if the great minds of the P&B politics forum can map out what happens next. Preferably one stage at a time. 1. Chequers, or nothing resembling Chequers, will be accepted by the EU as it breaches the four freedoms of the Single Market. Anyone disagree with that? 2. Assuming no one disagrees the ball is back in the U.K. court; what’s the next step? a) May resigns, then... b) It is tossed back to the U.K. Parliament, then.... c) ? Profit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkthebigclub Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Antlion said: Profit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Antlion said: Profit. I should have added “sensible responses only please” though it probably wouldn’t have made a difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 May isn't going to resign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I should have added “sensible responses only please” though it probably wouldn’t have made a difference. Profit for the prominent Bexiteers gambling heavily on a UK economic crash? Edited September 20, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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