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5 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

The recent polls involving Leave voters makes me think the figures on the bus is of even less relevance than before.  People didn't vote Leave to save the country money; they voted Leave because they are xenophobic, and in some cases racist, c***s.

 

 

3 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

No my vote was not motivated by money, xenophobia or racism.  I explained my rational for voting as I did at the time.  If you're genuinely interested I'm sure you can find the post(s).

You voted Leave so what part of the original post are you?

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2 hours ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said:

Britain needs to start producing German cars IMO. And chorizo. That'll get the production jobs back.

They already are producing German cars.  Mini and Rolls Royce parts are made in Germany - it's only some of the assembling that's done here.

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I went to college in mcspreaders home town of hawick many years ago. It was a thriving town then but the knitwear industry moved out to the far East in a few short years, helped by Tory policies. This has happened all over the country, we make next to nothing but will be trading with the world. What a load of tripe

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9 hours ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said:

The reason I'm patronising is that you are a fucking clown. Check the name of the thread. You are claiming that Brexit is a good thing and your reasoning is that UK jobs have moved to other parts of Europe. Yet apparently these jobs won't be reinstated. So what's the fucking point then? If the EU took 'control' away then surely Brexit means we can take it back, no? Apparently not. And that's according to you.

Also I may point out there was another couple of simple questions that you have completely avoided in the last page or two. That'll be your version of 'owning' the rest of us. You must write for the Daily Express. Your English and comprehension is a bit too good for that, I suppose.

I haven't claimed the movement of jobs to the EU mainland, or anywhere else is a good thing.

I don't know what the future economic policies of future Govt's will be.

I tend to ignore stupid, loaded  questions from people not really interested in my answers.

I am not bothered or motivated by 'owning' anyone and I'm not really sure what that means but if it means that your vitriol won't break me and your anger and frustration that I don't allow your prejudiced opposition to Brexit and constant negativity to the possible outcomes to bring me down then I guess I do.......

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On 09/08/2017 at 19:59, McSpreader said:

Companies have been moving jobs to Europe for decades, especially factory production jobs ,.......where the f**k were you then when factory production workers were losing their jobs you arse?

On 09/08/2017 at 07:16, McSpreader said:

That's moving jobs, not losing jobs!

Consistency FTW!

 

 

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3 hours ago, MrSpikey said:

Consistency FTW!

 

 

It's consistent.

Factory/production jobs are moved when the EU encourages companies to move production facilities to the 'emerging' EU economies from the more successful established economies through Grants , Subsidies and Tax Breaks.

It's a method of rewarding these countries for their continued subservience.

The jobs are lost to to the original country and the workforce laid off and paid off, The workforce, save a small handful of key personnel, are not moved or wanted and are dumped on the scrapheap.

The Banking jobs are different and it's a different type of workforce. The jobs are moving for wholly different reasons and the employees are not being paid off or laid off but will be offered the opportunity to move with the jobs as their expertise in that field is harder to easily replicate.

Please try not to be deliberately ignorant!

 

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On 09/08/2017 at 23:49, bob the tank said:

I went to college in mcspreaders home town of hawick many years ago. It was a thriving town then but the knitwear industry moved out to the far East in a few short years, helped by Tory policies. This has happened all over the country, we make next to nothing but will be trading with the world. What a load of tripe

Those were the days!

The reasons for whole industries closing down and relocating are complex and deep rooted but when the EU is actively destroying the UK job market through it's policies and it's you that is losing out then it's right to question your membership of the EU........That was the Why of  Brexit . 

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On 09/08/2017 at 21:31, Fullerene said:

I would be more comfortable with this whole Brexit and Leave thing if I heard a politician who really had a clear vision of what it would mean and could say so in a really convincing manner.

So far - nobody.
All airy fairy - "trust me - we are better out."

All this thing about not showing our cards.  Reminds me of that famous speech by John F Kennedy.
"Before the end of this decade - we will send a man somewhere (don't ask me to say where) and bring him back safely"
Truly memorable!

Kennedy wasn't in negotiations with 'The Man On The Moon'  for permission to land there so it's not a comparable  situation.

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1 minute ago, Antiochas III said:

How is the EU actively destroying the UK job market through it's policies?  

Free movement of people flooding the jobs market driving down pay and conditions and reducing job opportunities for UK citizens.

Offering grants for production companies to move  production facilities and the jobs needed to operate them to Eastern/Southern EU countries

Fisheries policy........

 

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On 09/08/2017 at 21:35, welshbairn said:

I'd advise Div to moderate a regular moist nazis of the week thread, and porn hub to do a hard core white boys being fistfucked by black men. And maybe a weekly video of McSpreader tracking down his girlfriend who left him for a Pole and crying about unfair it all is, so hard that his girlfriend comes back to him.

I can't imagine what it must be like to be so frustrated and defeated that you have to create this whole alternate world in your mind where you have superpowers and date Lindsay Lohan ( or  Rylan Clarke or whoever floats your boat) and vanquish all your enemies.

Whereas back in the real world.....oooooft!

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Businesses and the UK Government are to blame for the low wages not the EU or migrants.  The EU are certainly not demanding that non-UK EU citizens be paid minimum wage.  Nor are they demanding that 1 full time position becomes 2 part time/3 zero hour postions to massage employment figures.  

So it's once again business leaders that are to blame.  Lets also forget the UK have been given grants too, a lot of them.  Also a lot of these easy available jobs are moved outside the UK to non-EU countries.

Ah yes, the fishing industry.  Lets forget again one of, if not the place that benefitted most from that deal was the City of London, which last time I checked was in the UK

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Free movement of people flooding the jobs market driving down pay and conditions and reducing job opportunities for UK citizens.
Offering grants for production companies to move  production facilities and the jobs needed to operate them to Eastern/Southern EU countries
Fisheries policy........
 

Pay and conditions are driven down by unscrupulous employers aided and abetted by a Tory government which has effectively removed any employment rights for those employed less than two years in a business.
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1 hour ago, kilbowie2002 said:


Can we all just try and remember that earlier in this thread mcspreader tried to argue that jobs moving out of the UK as a result of brexit shouldnt be counted as job losses? Can we just close our eyes really tight and ignore him until he fucks off?

Thats bullshit.

I made it quite clear that I was referring specifically to the banking jobs that might be moved  to the EU as a result of Brexit .

Im not aware of any other jobs moving as a result of Brexit only of jobs disappearing from the UK to the EU as a result of EU policies.

Sorry if that makes your slavish support of the EU a bit less comfortable.

And what level of sad c**t must you be to start a post ' Can we all blah blah' and continue with  'let's just blah blah'..?

3 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:


Pay and conditions are driven down by unscrupulous employers aided and abetted by a Tory government which has effectively removed any employment rights for those employed less than two years in a business.

Thats bullshit too.

Pay and conditions  at the bottom end of the wages scale are driven down by the availability of cheap labour from countries where there is even lower pay, worse conditions and less opportunity.

Its a rush to the bottom aided and abetted by free movement of labour.

The main  beneficiaries of mass immigration are the immigrants themselves  and the businesses that exploit them and the host nations' population benefit barely a jot and are mostly disadvantaged.

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4 minutes ago, McSpreader said:

Thats bullshit.

I made it quite clear that I was referring specifically to the banking jobs that might be moved  to the EU as a result of Brexit .

Im not aware of any other jobs moving as a result of Brexit only of jobs disappearing from the UK to the EU as a result of EU policies.

Sorry if that makes your slavish support of the EU a bit less comfortable.

And what level of sad c**t must you be to start a post ' Can we all blah blah' and continue with  'let's just blah blah'..?

Thats bullshit too.

Pay and conditions  at the bottom end of the wages scale are driven down by the availability of cheap labour from countries where there is even lower pay, worse conditions and less opportunity.

Its a rush to the bottom aided and abetted by free movement of labour.

The main  beneficiaries of mass immigration are the immigrants themselves  and the businesses that exploit them and the host nations' population benefit barely a jot and are mostly disadvantaged.

Aye, send all those scrounging nurses and doctors back where they came from.

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1 hour ago, McSpreader said:

Thats bullshit.

I made it quite clear that I was referring specifically to the banking jobs that might be moved  to the EU as a result of Brexit .

Im not aware of any other jobs moving as a result of Brexit only of jobs disappearing from the UK to the EU as a result of EU policies.

Sorry if that makes your slavish support of the EU a bit less comfortable.

And what level of sad c**t must you be to start a post ' Can we all blah blah' and continue with  'let's just blah blah'..?

Thats bullshit too.

Pay and conditions  at the bottom end of the wages scale are driven down by the availability of cheap labour from countries where there is even lower pay, worse conditions and less opportunity.

Its a rush to the bottom aided and abetted by free movement of labour.

The main  beneficiaries of mass immigration are the immigrants themselves  and the businesses that exploit them and the host nations' population benefit barely a jot and are mostly disadvantaged.

So again, which EU Policy demands the UK Government to allow Businesses to pay shit wages?  

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