sparky88 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Zen Archer said: Were you ever in Govan in 2012? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 8 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: I might have missed this but is there anything to connect this to Islamic terrorism or that the guy was a Muslim? From the BBC website: French media reports say he has been identified as Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel, who lived locally. Sounds like he could be a Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastermind Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I might have missed this but is there anything to connect this to Islamic terrorism or that the guy was a Muslim? It was a terrorist attack by someone called Mohammed. Unconfirmed, but I'd say the chances were it's linked to Islamic terrorism and the guy is a Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: From the BBC website: French media reports say he has been identified as Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel, who lived locally. Sounds like he could be a Muslim. He might be an atheist lone wolf who came from a Muslim background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Tight John McVeigh is a tit said: Nowhere in the Koran does it say you must not drink (or sell) alcohol. As mentioned it is all interpretation of a book written many years ago, the same as most religious documents. It's just as easy to interpret the writings to angle a hatred and miss understanding of all Islam as it does these ISIS fuckwits to turn it into a book of evil. There is far too much infighting in Islam that is ignored in an attempt to simplify this in western terms and Islam itself (the good and peace loving Muslims (the vast majority of them) need to rise up against these terrorists as all they are really doing is destroying Islam. Mr Bairn has either tried too hard this time or truly is a complete embarrassment of a human being. Miss Understanding was my favourite Roger Hargreaves character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream Cheese Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Whether the guy is a Muslim or not is completely irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant here is the despicable act that he committed and any other possible involvements in the planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Could be Islamic terrorism but given the millions of north Africans and people of north African descent living in France it could equally be the guy was not a practicing Muslim and/or the attack had no religious motivation. I imagine a Tunisian in France has many reasons to hold a grudge against society that don't necessarily equate to wanting to bring about a world wide caliphate. In any case from what we currently know , or more accurately don't know, there is nothing to suggest it was a planned attack as part of a terrorist cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Cream Cheese said: Whether the guy is a Muslim or not is completely irrelevant. The only thing that is relevant here is the despicable act that he committed and any other possible involvements in the planning. Bizarre post What a load of utter deflection and whataboutery. It's very very clear that this was a muslim based attack. The only thing that remains to be seen was whether it was a lone wolf who is sympathetic to IS, or an actual planned IS attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 28 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I was at the cinema when JFK was shot. I can't remember what the film was so its probably not a good alibi. I'd just got out of the bath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream Cheese Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Just now, Mr Bairn said: Bizarre post What a load of utter deflection and whataboutery. It's very very clear that this was a muslim based attack. The only thing that remains to be seen was whether it was a lone wolf who is sympathetic to IS, or an actual planned IS attack. What's a "muslim based attack"? Crimes should be treated individually depending on who the perpetrators are. 22% of the worlds population are Muslim. Do you honestly think it's wise to drag 22% of the worlds population into an attack committed by one person, just because that person may happen to share the same religion? The man was also African American I believe. So lets drag all black people into it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Cream Cheese said: What's a "muslim based attack"? Crimes should be treated individually depending on who the perpetrators are. 22% of the worlds population are Muslim. Do you honestly think it's wise to drag 22% of the worlds population into an attack committed by one person, just because that person may happen to share the same religion?The man was also African American I believe. So lets drag all black people into it as well. Eh, wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 21 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: From the BBC website: French media reports say he has been identified as Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel, who lived locally. Sounds like he could be a Muslim. I heard on the radio he was a French Tunisian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream Cheese Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Mr Bairn said: Eh, wtf? You're connecting this attack from one individual to the entirety of the Muslim religion, which makes up 22% of the worlds population. No wonder you have the status of a fud on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Could be Islamic terrorism but given the millions of north Africans and people of north African descent living in France it could equally be the guy was not a practicing Muslim and/or the attack had no religious motivation. I imagine a Tunisian in France has many reasons to hold a grudge against society that don't necessarily equate to wanting to bring about a world wide caliphate. In any case from what we currently know , or more accurately don't know, there is nothing to suggest it was a planned attack as part of a terrorist cell. Correct. Islamic State in today's news reporting is what Communism was in the 50s; the name given to a nebulous perceived enemy. Many people who have zero idea what they are talking about want to make this into a "them against us" game of Cowboys and Indians. It's easy, but it isn't helpful. Glasgow Airport had nothing to do with Islamic State. There's a weird kind of vicarious victimhood thing going on there with the Daily Record. But, of course, anyone who has any genuine understanding of international security issues ignores the tabloid press anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I'm not so sure. I think it was a prophetic protest at being put in the North Section with Dumbarton. Which of course was prophesied in the Quran. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 If the mountain wont come to mohammed, mohammed must come to the mountain, alternatively the SPFL can move the mountain north of the highland boundary fault line but great will be the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the Sons of the Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 16 minutes ago, Cream Cheese said: What's a "muslim based attack"? Crimes should be treated individually depending on who the perpetrators are. 22% of the worlds population are Muslim. Do you honestly think it's wise to drag 22% of the worlds population into an attack committed by one person, just because that person may happen to share the same religion? The man was also African American I believe. So lets drag all black people into it as well. Where has anywhere stated he was African American ? He has been reported as French Tunisian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: Correct. Islamic State in today's news reporting is what Communism was in the 50s; the name given to a nebulous perceived enemy. Many people who have zero idea what they are talking about want to make this into a "them against us" game of Cowboys and Indians. It's easy, but it isn't helpful. Glasgow Airport had nothing to do with Islamic State. There's a weird kind of vicarious victimhood thing going on there with the Daily Record. But, of course, anyone who has any genuine understanding of international security issues ignores the tabloid press anyway. 9/11 was nothing to do with IS aswell , but they are related . Isis is just another form of extreme Sunni wahabist terrorists , they target the west because they hate the west regardless of which group or faction they align with at that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 17 minutes ago, Cream Cheese said: You're connecting this attack from one individual to the entirety of the Muslim religion, which makes up 22% of the worlds population. No wonder you have the status of a fud on here. Where on earth are you getting that he's African-American though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Commiserations on having to listen to the Fratellis.Thoughts are with your ears. I'm normally with you on most things, but Chelsea Dagger is a quality tune.Meet you on the casuals thread m2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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