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Gasperini has done a very good job at Atalanta. Perhaps in with a shout of either Inter or Juve (more likely the former)

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Gasperini has done a very good job at Atalanta. Perhaps in with a shout of either Inter or Juve (more likely the former)
Surely he would go to juve. Was gutted for them against Lazio

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Sky are reporting Conte is likely to head to Inter.

Pochettino the favourite for Juve.

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Sky are reporting Conte is likely to head to Inter.
Pochettino the favourite for Juve.
A Juve supporting mate of mine who is very accurate when it comes to Juve related predictions reckons that Conte to Inter would make them favourites for next year's scudetto.

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Got my tickets for Napoli-Inter tomorrow, absolutely pumped.

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Will be in Milan with Mrs in October, if there’s a game on I’d quite like to go but getting less than positive comments about getting to the San Siro and the area around the stadium. Any advice from someone who has actually been to a game there?

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Will be in Milan with Mrs in October, if there’s a game on I’d quite like to go but getting less than positive comments about getting to the San Siro and the area around the stadium. Any advice from someone who has actually been to a game there?
It's really easy getting to the San Siro from the city centre - you can get the metro M5 (purple line) straight to the stadium, you can get a tram (no. 16) straight to the stadium or if you think that will be too busy or too hectic you can get a different metro line then walk around a mile or so past the racecourse or down the main road. The area round the stadium isn't exactly very pretty but there's nothing too sketchy round there as far as I remember. There are a few bars etc. round there that I wouldn't necessarily go into but I'd just have a few beers in the centre of town then head out in the hour or so before kick off. There will probably be armed police with assault rifles in the vicinity of the stadium but they aren't going to be interested in you unless you look like you're intent on causing bother.

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Hellas beat Perugia 4-1 in the Serie B "qualifying' playoff - now face Pescara over two legs, with the possibility if they win that of a further two games against Benevento or Cittadella for another season getting arseraped week in and week out in promotion to Serie A

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A shame Perugia never made it but it was interesting to see a North Korean and South Korean substituted on at the same time.

Inzaghi and Sarri are currently the frontrunners for the Juventus job.

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big 45 minutes coming up for Empoli (and Parma); 1-0 up at home to Torino at half time, if they hang on they're out of the bottom three, definitely above Genoa and possibly Parma too with all three teams away from home on the final day of the season (Inter, Fiorentina and Roma respectively); hope they stay up - nice place, great little ground...

ETA1 - torino equalise...

ETA2 - empoli back in front, and parma have one cleared off the line - still 0-0 there

ETA3 - 3-1 to empoli now

ETA4 - Parma take the lead - that's them safe if it stays like that; could well be going in to the last day with one from five to go down (Empoli, Genoa, Udinese, Bologna - and Fiorentina !)

ETA5 - 4-1 for Empoli !

ETA6 - Empoli win - Parma win and are safe - all manner of potential last day permutations - will hafta go and check the head to head records....

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On 4/28/2019 at 16:11, Silverton End said:

Bad result for Messina in Serie D Group I, 1-2 at home to their nearest dropzone rival Sancataldese. Only 1 point ahead of them now, going into the final round of matches, Messina are away to 2nd bottom Rotonda Calcio. Sancataldese are at home to bottom side Igea Virtus Barcellona

:shutup

easy win at Rotonda to steer clear of the relegation play-outs, but Messina lost the Coppa Italia Serie D final to Matelica yesterday (18.05); if they won, they'd have qualified for the latter stages of the playoffs and (potentially) been on the list of clubs put forward for promotion to replace any non-relegated Serie C teams who were demoted for financial irregularities or other shitebaggery; Citta de Messina beat Locri in the relegation play-out, so both Messina clubs (should) remain in the same division together for 2019/20...

In other lower league news, all three teams relegated from Serie B to Serie D last summer for fiscal misdeeds have all secured automatic promotion back to Serie C (Bari, Avellino and Cesena); they'll be joined - on paper - by Como, Arzignano Valchiampo, Lecco, Pergolettese, Pianese and Picerno (three teams to each of the three Serie B regional leagues)

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ok - here's how it looks:

if Genoa lose at Fiorentina, they are down, regardless of anything else

if Genoa draw at Fiorentina and Empoli draw or win at Inter, Genoa are down

if Genoa draw at Fiorentina and Empoli lost to Inter, Genoa win the head to head and Empoli go down

if Genoa win at Fiorentina and Empoli lose or draw, then Empoli go down

if Genoa win at Fiorentina and Empoli win at Inter, it get's very interesting - they will both stay up

Genoa would beat Fiorentina on head to head, and therefore finish above them and would be safe

If either Udinese or Bologna win or draw their last games, they finish above both Fiorentina and Genoa

If Udinese lost their last game at Cagliari, they finish below Fiorentina on head to head, so Fiorentina would be safe

If Bologna lost their last game at home to Napoli (assuming they also lose at Lazio tomorrow) they finish equal head to head with Fiorentina (two 0-0 draws) but below them on (overall) goal difference, so Fiorentina would be safe

so, if Genoa and Fiorentina, Bologna and Udinese all finish on 40 points, and Empoli win at Inter, it's down to Udinese v Bologna on head to head

each team won the home fixture 2-1 so it would go to (overall) goal difference - Bologna currently have a six goal advantage with two games to play...

fucking hell  :lol:

 

 

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I don't think that's right. If Genoa, Fiorentina, Bologna and Udinese all finish level on forty points, and Empoli win Bologna go down having got the fewest points in the matches those four have played against each other. 

Genoa 9 points, Fiorentina and Udinese 7, Bologna 6.

If Bologna get any points from their remaining games and Fiorentina, Genoa and Udinese all finish on forty, Udinese go down having got 4 points from their respective encounters compared to 5 for Genoa and 6 for Fiorentina. Again assuming Empoli win. 

If Udinese avoid defeat and Bologna, Fiorentina and Genoa all finish level, Bologna would finish last out of those sides on head to head again. 

If Udinese and Bologna both get at least a point and Genoa beat Fiorentina, the Genovese would finish above the Florentines. 

Always had a soft spot for Bologna. Hopefully Lazio are on the beach after their cup final win, and the Rossoblu can guarantee survival before the panic of a last day decider.. 

It should all be irrelevant as Empoli should lose at Inter, but after some recent results (looking at you, SPAL vs Juventus), I'm taking nothing for granted. 

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42 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said:

I don't think that's right. If Genoa, Fiorentina, Bologna and Udinese all finish level on forty points, and Empoli win Bologna go down having got the fewest points in the matches those four have played against each other. 

Genoa 9 points, Fiorentina and Udinese 7, Bologna 6.

hmmmm - good call - i'm not sure how that works with so many teams involved and was assuming that a "head to head" win against any other side on the same points would lift a given team above that particular rival - makes sense to extend it to cover them all in a 'mini league'; i'll check back and see if there's a precedent...

ETA - you're spot on - 2010/11 - Chievo, Parma, Catania all finished on the same points, and that's how it was decided

if it's Udinese, Genoa and Fiorentina, though - the results i have give them all five points - they'll all have won one, drawn two and lost one match; final goal difference will obviously depend on the Fiorentina v Genoa match - as it stands, Udinese +1, Fiorentina +1, Genoa -2; Fiorentina's GD must go down in this scenario, as they will have lost against Genoa to have 40 points, so that actually means that Udinese would be safe and it's between the other two - so there's actually no scenario which can see Udinese relegated after all ???

:blink:

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I'm disappointed Parma have managed to survive after wriggling their way out of an already lenient five point deduction.

If Genoa go down you'd imagine they'd win Serie B at a canter with all that Piątek money.

I hope Empoli stay up, they always have a go at the big teams. Fiorentina have lost five on the bounce, absolute #scenes if they went down.

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Napoli vs Inter was a blast.  Final score was 4-1 to Napoli and the Ultras were bouncing for most of the game.  

If you have never been to a Napoli game the Stadio San Paolo is a lot like Naples itself, very energetic but mostly under construction and missing amenities that we normally take for granted like toilet seats on the toilets (the missus was not pleased by this discovery) and consistent food vendors (although there is plenty of food available in the square before the game)  That being said, the atmosphere was pretty electric and the views are pretty good for a stadium with a running track.  A couple of pieces of advice, make sure to bring some ID to the stadium, they don't tell you this when you buy the ticket but they were checking ID's at the gate, luckily they accepted our Canadian drivers licenses and we didn't have our passports with us.  Also printed section and seat numbers are pure fiction, as long as you are in the general part of the stadium (price point) then you sit wherever, it's treated as general admission even though you have  a seat number on your ticket.  

Overall a great time

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In hindsight I could have caught two Serie A games on my Italian trip as I'm in Rome tonight and Lazio are at home to Bologna.  Kick off is just over an hour away and I don't think there is a way to get a ticket and get to the match from my hotel near the Termini station.  Oh, and I don't like Lazio

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Also, speaking of Napoli, apparently they are going to sign Kieran Trippier from Spurs

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3 hours ago, senorsoupe said:

In hindsight I could have caught two Serie A games on my Italian trip as I'm in Rome tonight and Lazio are at home to Bologna.  Kick off is just over an hour away and I don't think there is a way to get a ticket and get to the match from my hotel near the Termini station.  Oh, and I don't like Lazio

could walk to the olimpico from termini in that time

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