Predictions - what will end up happening

[The_Kincardine]

2 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said:

a desire for a forward thinking Scotland as opposed to the insular and backward looking feel of the UK government. 

We both would want that.  Even as  a Unionist I'd prefer a, " forward thinking Scotland" to England's Brexit-dominated clusterfuck but I don't see that.  I see the empty-headed Natters becoming more bitter and divisive and, as I said, ethno-nationalism coming to the fore.

It's a missed opportunity.  There are lots of potential independence voters who could be swayed by Scotland being modern and outward-looking but who are put off by the increasing insistence on cultural Scottishness.

 

[Dan Steele]

9 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

Natters becoming more bitter and divisive and, as I said, ethno-nationalism coming to the fore.

I really don't see this unfolding up here at all. What I do see is a growing realisation that a) we have never been such different countries, and b) a desire for change, free from Westminster. The inclusivity and importance, for example, of European agricultural workers in my area is a world away from the attitude of many in agricultural areas of England.

[The_Kincardine]

1 minute ago, The Skelpit Lug said:

I really don't see this unfolding up here at all. What I do see is a growing realisation that a) we have never been such different countries

We are not such different countries.  East Lothian is very similar to Hampshire.  Glasgow is very similar to Newcastle and Edinburgh is posher than Oxford but with higher house prices.

Where we also align is that the politics of both countries have been dominated, as I have said before, by tossers with both a sense of grievance and some sort of lost identity.  Hence Brexit and the Nationalist fucktards - two cheeks of a disaffected arse.

[ICTJohnboy]

2 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

We are not such different countries.  East Lothian is very similar to Hampshire.  Glasgow is very similar to Newcastle and Edinburgh is posher than Oxford but with higher house prices.

Where we also align is that the politics of both countries have been dominated, as I have said before, by tossers with both a sense of grievance and some sort of lost identity.  Hence Brexit and the Nationalist fucktards - two cheeks of a disaffected arse.

 

What a ludicrous set of comparisons.

You cannot be serious!

[The_Kincardine]

Just now, ICTJohnboy said:

 

What a ludicrous set of comparisons.

You cannot be serious!

Go on then.  How are they different?

I'll be back on tomorrow night.  That will give you plenty of time to make up shite.

[ICTJohnboy]

16 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

Go on then.  How are they different?

I'll be back on tomorrow night.  That will give you plenty of time to make up shite.

 

Fair enough, but I won't need that much time.

[effeffsee_the2nd]

f**k sake boys.  I wished I never bothered

[effeffsee_the2nd]

Just now, MixuFixit said:

As OP don't you have the power to prune shitposts?

im no that sad

[Benjamin_Nevis]

Brexit has also seen Kincardine go from the occasionally sensible post to outright, desperate attention seeking. A bit sad and a bit funny at the same time.

[Hedgecutter]

Ian Blackford and the SNP to be the face of the Remain rebellion in order for Labour & the Lib Dems to get votes from English Leave supporters, complete U-turn, widespread resentment of a Scottish presence at Westminter* and an Indyref2 without the lovebombing we saw first time around. 

*not a typo 

[Antlion]

4 hours ago, MixuFixit said:

I reckon in 20 years the UK will rejoin the EU because by then the EU will have become sufficiently right wing that the English will like it again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nah, it’ll still have too many uppity Polacks and Frogs. English Brexiteers (and plenty of North British ones) will only ever accept political unions if the motherland is in total charge and direct rule comes from those in Westminster with the correct accents. Now, if the EU in twenty years was willing to accept that its headquarters were to be relocated from Brussels to London, the Windsor family were to be its face, and every decision made for all members was subject to acceptance by England, you might be on to something.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Nah, it’ll still have too many uppity Pakis and darkies.

FTFY.

[MarkoRaj]

Kincardine is the worst combination of troll and fucking moron

[SandyCromarty]

On 06/09/2019 at 21:50, The_Kincardine said:

We are not such different countries.  East Lothian is very similar to Hampshire.  Glasgow is very similar to Newcastle and Edinburgh is posher than Oxford but with higher house prices.

Where we also align is that the politics of both countries have been dominated, as I have said before, by tossers with both a sense of grievance and some sort of lost identity.  Hence Brexit and the Nationalist fucktards - two cheeks of a disaffected arse.

Our core culture is totally separate, Morris dancing is not a Scottish pastime, our legal system is not based on precedent as english law is, not proven is singularly ours and part of our Government MSP's are elected on a PR system.

Oh and three Scottish banks print their own bank notes unlike england and Wales where the Bank of england only can issue banknotes which are not legal tender in Scotland but are accepted.

We are very different countries.

In fact if you travel in england you will be made well aware of the differences within that country with the North and South divide. 

[The_Kincardine]

22 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

Our core culture is totally separate, Morris dancing is not a Scottish pastime, our legal system is not based on precedent as english law is, not proven is singularly ours and part of our Government MSP's are elected on a PR system.

Oh and three Scottish banks print their own bank notes unlike england and Wales where the Bank of england only can issue banknotes which are not legal tender in Scotland but are accepted.

We are very different countries.

In fact if you travel in england you will be made well aware of the differences within that country with the North and South divide. 

Our core culture is near-identical.  Same language, same political system for 300 years, same head of state for almost half a millenium, same reformed religion dominating since the 16th Century, shared literature and shared foreign policy and shared commerce and industry.  I will grant that the Scottish tail has wagged the English dog since our shared philosophical life has been dominated by Scots (especially Hume, Smith and Ferguson) and conceded that Scottish politicians have punched above their weight in Westminster.  Scots also dominated Empire especially the Scots-dominated East India Company and the Scots-dominated Hudson Bay Company.  Oh and we were brilliant at slavery and drug-trading in our shared Empire.  Probably better than the English.  This is why so many folk from the colonies have Scottish surnames and why, by dint of the Opium Wars, we have a Scottish-inspired international drugs trade.  All were due to Scots and English working in the same system and working in harmony

So I have half a millenium of conjoined culture, politics, economics and history and against that you place Morris Dancing and banknotes that aren't even legal tender in Scotland.

Away and listen to Last Night of the Proms.

[Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo]

2 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

same reformed religion dominating since the 16th Century

Of all things, I'm surprised you don't know this is utter horseshit. My Gran would kick you in the pie for even suggesting it's the case. And she's 96.

[Malky3]

31 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

Our core culture is totally separate, Morris dancing is not a Scottish pastime, our legal system is not based on precedent as english law is, not proven is singularly ours and part of our Government MSP's are elected on a PR system.

Oh and three Scottish banks print their own bank notes unlike england and Wales where the Bank of england only can issue banknotes which are not legal tender in Scotland but are accepted.

We are very different countries.

In fact if you travel in england you will be made well aware of the differences within that country with the North and South divide. 

What a load of shit Sandy. 

Bolivia, Germany, Lesotho and New Zealand use Mixed Member PR systems - are you really claiming we've got more in common with them than England? 

We might not have many Morris Dancers in Scotland, but we've got plenty of Gay Gordons Stripping The Willow. 

Since 1707 Scotland has shared it's legislature with England and Wales and it's been heavily influenced by English law ever since. More recently Scots law has been heavily influenced by the European Parliament and the Treaties of the European Union. We hardly stand alone in terms of our laws. 

And as for the "three Scottish banks printing off their own notes" - the majority shareholder in RBS is the UK Government. Bank of Scotland is a subsidiary of Lloyds Banking Group, and up till fairly recently the Clydesdale Bank was owned by the National Australia Group and are currently busy re branding themselves as "Virgin Bank" because the brand name is less toxic. 

I do plenty of travelling around the UK Sandy and I find I have plenty in common with those from England, Wales and Northern Ireland - not least a common love of football, a common language, an enjoyment of drinking and socialising, a shared taste in the foods we eat and in the television programmes we all watch. Perhaps if you stopped being so xenophobic you might find that we're all the same really. 

 

 

[The_Kincardine]

13 minutes ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said:

Of all things, I'm surprised you don't know this is utter horseshit. My Gran would kick you in the pie for even suggesting it's the case. And she's 96.

What?  Two conjoined countries with two Established/National churches with two comparable statements of faith?  Two conjoined countries wherein the Head of State is Supreme Governor of one church and took a coronation oath to, "maintain and preserve the Protestant Religion and Presbyterian Church Government" of the other church?

Yer gran kens f**k all.

BTW If I were Queen I'd step back from this bollocks but I mention it just to reinforce how similar Scotland and England are in terms of culture and history.

 

[Malky3]

4 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

What?  Two conjoined countries with two Established/National churches with two comparable statements of faith?  Two conjoined countries wherein the Head of State is Supreme Governor of one church and took a coronation oath to, "maintain and preserve the Protestant Religion and Presbyterian Church Government" of the other church?

Yer gran kens f**k all.

BTW If I were Queen I'd step back from this bollocks but I mention it just to reinforce how similar Scotland and England are in terms of culture and history.

 

I'm pretty sure the Presbyterian Church only recognises Jesus as the Head of the Church. 

Edited September 14, 2019 by Malky3

[The_Kincardine]

1 minute ago, Malky3 said:

I'm pretty sure the Presbyterian Church only recognises Jesus as the Head of the Church. 

Indeed - but the Monarch does take the oath that I quoted.