Blue jean Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 2 relegations, committee have to hold their hands up and admit their mistakes. Fear for them if they go down now, needs new blood on the committee and desperately needs players wanting to play and clear leadership in the management setup. Next club to to hit the wall... I hope I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junioreastconnossieur Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Surely St. Andrews are down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofoo45 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 The committee at St Andrews have a lot to answer for. No experience or understanding of football matters whatsoever. No forward thinking. No modern methods to attract investment. Players get a club relegated....but the downward journey is steered by committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue jean Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 It requires a total overhaul, Superleague 18 months ago and strange decisions then, and 99% certain North League in next few weeks. 2 Relegations and a committee who have made bad decisions in that time are to blame. As I said before, speaking to the few supporters I fear for their future as a club. Players will go and rightly so, but who would want to come and play in the North League and who can they attract. Too much bickering in the committee and too many silent assassins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor meldrew Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Am I right in saying that Whitburn's final 4 games are dundee violet, Downfield. Arniston and Glenrothes??? They'll be confident of getting 2 points needed I'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue jean Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Yes Victor I believe your right I think they play Violet home last game maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I pity St Andrews, too many thundercunts on here doing nothing but putting the boot in and sniping at those in charge rather than offering to do something to help them out. Shame for them but that's football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor meldrew Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, drs said: I pity St Andrews, too many thundercunts on here doing nothing but putting the boot in and sniping at those in charge rather than offering to do something to help them out. Shame for them but that's football. I'd like to see St Andrews stay up personally but doesn't look likely. A lot of mates up there and have a lot of time for Morri. Don't know what's went wrong and thought the change in manager would've gave them a lift but found wind very hard to come by after having such a good start to season as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue jean Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 DRS i agree with you for once but I do believe help has been offered from a few good guys to go on committee with footballing knowledge and some business acumen, but it's never been taken up. Reasons only a select 1 or 2 know who seem to be making all the decisions and have done so for the last couple of years. Clearly they are blameless when speaking to them and it's everyone else's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue jean Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Victor Managers have chosen to let players go and brought players in. It has not worked at all, no heart in the squad, no fight and nothing from the sides at all. Yes a couple of games been unlucky here and there, good start people say, they played promoted teams and a Dalkeith side which changed effectively a whole squad, those same teams have improved as the season went on while the Saints gradually got worse each week. The signings have been poor and discipline in games poor and that comes from the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor meldrew Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 23 minutes ago, Blue jean said: Victor Managers have chosen to let players go and brought players in. It has not worked at all, no heart in the squad, no fight and nothing from the sides at all. Yes a couple of games been unlucky here and there, good start people say, they played promoted teams and a Dalkeith side which changed effectively a whole squad, those same teams have improved as the season went on while the Saints gradually got worse each week. The signings have been poor and discipline in games poor and that comes from the sidelines. You'll have a better insight on the situation than me as only saw them 3 times this season so not in a position to have an opinion other than seeing results, reading reports etc. I'm sure with the budget Saints have though, IF they do go down then they'll be favourites to come back up, though north league is tougher than people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue jean Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Victor - The first 6 games I seen and we did ok won games yes, opposition was not great in fairness. Possibly that was a false hope, since then seen a couple towards xmas in which we were poor and seen the last 5/6 games. We played well against Kennoway and Arniston away in which we were unlucky. Sauchie away was terrible along with Tayport, Violet, Whitburn and Downfield on sat. I don't agree with your statement on budget, yes money been spent on wages and transfer fees from Barret and Morri but they have bought extremely poorly in my eyes and a lot of the committee from what they have said, that being said however I do feel they say one thing to your face and another to someone else. Players will leave and for me it's right as the mentality is all wrong, but we won't come straight back up that's for sure, we need to start fresh again and that's a worry I have for our long term future in the junior game. The committee are nice people, but they all have the same common problems, that's speaking about everyone behind their backs and he said this and she said that. End of the day the chairman/treasurer has been making decisions and also trying to move his boy onto other clubs now for me that speaks volumes about where the club are at. On Sat a committee member who was watching the game 50 yards from us asked us after the game who won!!!! That tells me he either drank too much or just does not care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only an observer Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 3 hours ago, victor meldrew said: Am I right in saying that Whitburn's final 4 games are dundee violet, Downfield. Arniston and Glenrothes??? They'll be confident of getting 2 points needed I'd imagine. Have I missed something, some announcement from ERSJFA. By my reckoning the bottom 4 clubs are relegated from the Premier League to the relevant North/South division. This puts St. Andrews, Dundee Violet, and Armadale Thistle automatically down with Whitburn needing to secure 4 wins out of 4, and again by my reckoning the fixture against Glenrothes is the squeaky bum time, full points needed or the drop beckons if it hasn't already happened. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it's been bugging my tits all weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbo Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Sure its only 3 teams due to Falkirk folding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian44wood Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Only 3 due to Falkirk folding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue jean Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Only an observer yes only 3 clubs due to the above info... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebell1 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 4 hours ago, Blue jean said: It requires a total overhaul, Superleague 18 months ago and strange decisions then, and 99% certain North League in next few weeks. 2 Relegations and a committee who have made bad decisions in that time are to blame. As I said before, speaking to the few supporters I fear for their future as a club. Players will go and rightly so, but who would want to come and play in the North League and who can they attract. Too much bickering in the committee and too many silent assassins... Blue jean your alive....... Still not commented on the Bluebell thread neither has your pal Boris to be fair maybe you haven't had the time yet. why don't you volunteer to help saints if you really feel they need a punt and you are concerned for them rather than do what you usually do and slate every club, while supporting your own ego. Do you have the business acumen? are you a football man? If so offer to help them out I know a lot of the guys on the playing side at saints as well as Morri and duff. and they will be hurting. They will stick together whatever league they are playing in next season am sure with a couple of additions they will make amends for this season. PS you gonna tell me who the better candidate was other than stevie kay yet. Would be really interested in that observation ? Oh the bluebells are blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue jean Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Bluebell1 well and truly alive sir... I hold my hands up and say yes you have had an exceptional first season, a lot of changes. I can only go on info given and it's my opinion there were very good candidates. Would they have had as good a first season well no crystal balls there but having seen a few super league games this season I do believe it was a fairly poor super league but you can only beat what's in front of you and Dundonald have picked up points when it's mattered and got that bit of a run which sets you up well. Broughty started great and then went a few months without winning, Carnoustie were poor and never won for about 8 weeks and then went on a great run, Linlithgow have been poor all season and are were they should be at this stage but I believe they will get out of it. It has been an inconsistent season for a few teams and that's were others have capitalised. Putting 3/4 wins together Inbetween a couple of defeats and draws and then a wee run again can propel any team in this league. You must admit yourself how surprised you have been with the 1st season and the biggest test will be next year and progressing on that. Going on about your comment about helping them out, well that's been offered in the past about 3 years ago which was never really taken up, likewise speaking to a few who have expressed an interest in working and helping out but due to the current committee and nip picking along with inner unrest it's not something they would want to do at this time, however being local people and if things changed with a choice few they would gladly come on board. Me now helping out is not really an option as I can't commit, if it's dancing one night and football the next with the kids and juggling work being away more it's not a commitment I could maintain. In terms of managers I have not slated Morri in fact I said he did a great job at Dundonald but very strange how he left and that was the basis of the thread before how and why that had happened. Going back to Saints yes you will know a lot and I am not saying they are not hurting but end of the day it's the managements signings, transfers, players going and they have not been good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kefc Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 27 minutes ago, bluebell1 said: Blue jean your alive....... Still not commented on the Bluebell thread neither has your pal Boris to be fair maybe you haven't had the time yet. why don't you volunteer to help saints if you really feel they need a punt and you are concerned for them rather than do what you usually do and slate every club, while supporting your own ego. Do you have the business acumen? are you a football man? If so offer to help them out I know a lot of the guys on the playing side at saints as well as Morri and duff. and they will be hurting. They will stick together whatever league they are playing in next season am sure with a couple of additions they will make amends for this season. PS you gonna tell me who the better candidate was other than stevie kay yet. Would be really interested in that observation ? Oh the bluebells are blue The better candidate in Blue Jeans eyes wouldn't be Phil McGuire would it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue jean Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, kefc said: The better candidate in Blue Jeans eyes wouldn't be Phil McGuire would it ? Kefc I believe your barking up the wrong tree but it was not a name I was told was a candidate. My choice was someone else or in fact 2 others who were rumoured to be coming in as Manager and Assistant, but I won't name people on here as that was private between Dundonald and the candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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