williemillersmoustache Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Dianne Abbott doing the Eugene Dadi? *Shudder* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 If they genuinely wanted to "bring a left wing alternative" then they shouldn't have voted for a mumbleclown with no credible prospect of winning power. Twice. That has little to do with the brand and everything to do with backing an absolutely abysmal political leader. But as the Momentum goons have no interest in building a party that can credibly challenge for power, they'll continue to back the mumbleclown until he eventually falls on his sword. Nah I do agree. I think they saw an opportunity when Corbyn entered the ballot and have stuck by him not so much out of belief in him more opposition to the PLP and centre right of the party. To me, it looks as doomed as RISE's run up here at the last election but that's for the English left to sort out cause we're hopefully in our way out of the CDU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 He looks like some distressed diva from a 50's sci-fi B movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I only heard Corbyn's anti-establishment spiel on the radio (ad nauseum) but he spoke well and his prole-friendly address chimed with me.Anyone but those fucking Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 You just have this doubt that he's more an ideas man. All piss and hot air, although that's a common enough trait in politicians. Who is going to actually see policies through? Corbyn just doesn't strike me as that boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 You just have this doubt that he's more an ideas man. All piss and hot air, although that's a common enough trait in politicians. Who is going to actually see policies through? Corbyn just doesn't strike me as that boy. I thought his speech was ok today but there was very little in the way of detail and I do worry about whether Labour will be able to come up with a manifesto in time, other than pretty much repeating the 2015 one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I doubt they'll repeat the 2015 one. I'd challenge anyone to carve controls on immigration on a stone this time with Diane Abbott on the front benches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Is Hothersall shagging that Chihuahua? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Oh Duncan, will you ever win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Quite the change in tone on this thread over the past 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Quite the change in tone on this thread over the past 12 months. This thread only started in June 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 It's probably a continuation of a dead thread he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 It's probably a continuation of a dead thread he's talking about. That would make sense. Not sure what the change in tone is though. Change in a good way or a bad way?I think most people would prefer a Labour government down South than this current Tory one. Even a flaky Labour government is preferable to the current Tory offering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I doubt they'll repeat the 2015 one. I'd challenge anyone to carve controls on immigration on a stone this time with Diane Abbott on the front benches. Maybe the 1983 one then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/21/theresa-may-cyncism-election-lynton-crosby-snp-alex-salmond I was struck by this in Salmonds' latest article, Corbyn could have achieved the act of not looking frit of an election, and at the same time inviting May to basically admit she had no confidence in her own government, which would've been a great way to start an election campaign. Quote Even if for some insane reason he still wanted the election, the Labour leader could then have moved a motion of no confidence in the government. This would have left May with the unpalatable choice of having to back it to have the election she craved, or move her own motion of no confidence in her own government. When the full story of the 2017 election is written, this act of self-destruction by Corbyn will be one of the most difficult to interpret or explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, renton said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/21/theresa-may-cyncism-election-lynton-crosby-snp-alex-salmond I was struck by this in Salmonds' latest article, Corbyn could have achieved the act of not looking frit of an election, and at the same time inviting May to basically admit she had no confidence in her own government, which would've been a great way to start an election campaign. It's like he doesn't have any political nous at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/21/theresa-may-cyncism-election-lynton-crosby-snp-alex-salmond I was struck by this in Salmonds' latest article, Corbyn could have achieved the act of not looking frit of an election, and at the same time inviting May to basically admit she had no confidence in her own government, which would've been a great way to start an election campaign. Even if for some insane reason he still wanted the election, the Labour leader could then have moved a motion of no confidence in the government. This would have left May with the unpalatable choice of having to back it to have the election she craved, or move her own motion of no confidence in her own government. When the full story of the 2017 election is written, this act of self-destruction by Corbyn will be one of the most difficult to interpret or explain. Yeah there was an article on Labour list before the vote saying pretty much the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Coyne (anti-Corbyn) is rumoured to be narrowly ahead of incumbent McClusksy (pro-Corbyn) in the Unite leadership race. Though apparently a legal challenge will likely follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 He's been suspended though the reason hasn't been revealed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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