G51 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 You're welcome, folks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) Looks like it's a straight fight between us and Ukraine for 11th and a CL GS place for 2022-23. Turkey are 2.5 wins behind and unless Sivasspor win their final game, both their teams will go out. Ukraine are basically level with us and could have two teams in the knockout stage, or could end up with none. Worst case scenario is if Shakhtar go through in the CL they'll go two wins ahead of us. Rangers need to match Benfica's result to be seeded in the last 32. The only positive for Celtic in the last game is that it's at home and Lille have already qualified, but they'll want to get top spot. Edited December 3, 2020 by Ginaro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMCs Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Looks like it's a straight fight between us and Ukraine for 11th and a CL GS place for 2022-23. Turkey are 2.5 wins behind and unless Sivasspor win their final game, both their teams will go out. Ukraine are basically level with us and could have two teams in the knockout stage, or could end up with none. Worst case scenario is if Shakhtar go through in the CL they'll go two wins ahead of us. Rangers need to better Benfica's result to be seeded in the last 32. The only positive for Celtic in the last game is that it's at home and Lille have already qualified, but they'll want to get top spot. Only chance we have of 11th is if Shakhtar don't get to the last 16 of the CL and Rangers pick a decent amount of further points. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, DMCs said: Only chance we have of 11th is if Shakhtar don't get to the last 16 of the CL and Rangers pick a decent amount of further points. Aye this season might be a season too early for Scotland. Next season though, we're in a very good place. Russia are dropping like a stone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, DMCs said: Only chance we have of 11th is if Shakhtar don't get to the last 16 of the CL and Rangers pick a decent amount of further points. Their group is so open that they could finish in one of four positions - hopefully Madrid and Inter win so they go out. If they were to finish 3rd and go into the EL last 32 they could easily make up the 5 CL bonus points lost, plus they got to the semi-finals last season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMCs Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, G51 said: Aye this season might be a season too early for Scotland. Next season though, we're in a very good place. Russia are dropping like a stone. Belgium losing a 12.5 too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Looks like it's a straight fight between us and Ukraine for 11th and a CL GS place for 2022-23. Turkey are 2.5 wins behind and unless Sivasspor win their final game, both their teams will go out. Ukraine are basically level with us and could have two teams in the knockout stage, or could end up with none. Worst case scenario is if Shakhtar go through in the CL they'll go two wins ahead of us. Rangers need to better Benfica's result to be seeded in the last 32. The only positive for Celtic in the last game is that it's at home and Lille have already qualified, but they'll want to get top spot. I reckon Rangers only need to match Benfica's result next week to win the group. They are ahead on head to head by means of away goals. 3-3 draw in Portugal and 2-2 draw at Ibrox. Europa League Group Stage. Edited December 3, 2020 by Distant Doonhamer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: I reckon Rangers only need to match Benfica's result next week to win the group. They are ahead on head to head by means of away goals. 3-3 draw in Portugal and 2-2 draw at Ibrox. Europa League Group Stage. Yes you're right - that's what I meant to say! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMCs Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Forza Nerazzurri then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GordonS Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 29/10/2020 at 15:36, realmadrid said: UEFA rightly value winning a trophy over finishing 3rd. Look at the situation in England where finishing 4th is celebrated by fans, or for some teams finishing 17th is a great achievement . They actively aim to get knocked out of cups. Bournemouth , what did they achieve in 5 years in the Premier league. Did they even make a semi final in 10 attempts while a top level team? The made the quarters of the League Cup twice and never got further than the 5th round of the FA Cup. They only beat one top-flight club - Brighton at home in the League Cup, after extra time - and usually went out to lower league opposition like Burton. The money guys might care most about finishing 17th year after year but IMO fans prefer glory to consistency. Of course, for a club the size of Bournemouth, getting promoted was the most glory they'll ever really hope for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Setsniffer Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 On 29/10/2020 at 15:36, realmadrid said: UEFA rightly value winning a trophy over finishing 3rd. Look at the situation in England where finishing 4th is celebrated by fans, or for some teams finishing 17th is a great achievement . They actively aim to get knocked out of cups. Bournemouth , what did they achieve in 5 years in the Premier league. Did they even make a semi final in 10 attempts while a top level team? fans who celebrate 17th in the premier league over cup wins, will point you in the direction of Wigan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahemps Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 8 hours ago, GordonS said: The made the quarters of the League Cup twice and never got further than the 5th round of the FA Cup. They only beat one top-flight club - Brighton at home in the League Cup, after extra time - and usually went out to lower league opposition like Burton. The money guys might care most about finishing 17th year after year but IMO fans prefer glory to consistency. Of course, for a club the size of Bournemouth, getting promoted was the most glory they'll ever really hope for. I don't know the exact figures but winning the league cup is worth about £2m where as finishing 17th gets you £30m-£40m. It's a sad place but this is modern football in England. If I supported a yo-yo team I would rather be a Swansea, Portsmouth or Wigan fan and remember my teams cup victory than a Norwich or Bournemouth fan and not even have tried to win something. Winning the SPFL gets you about £3m but qualifying for the CL groups gets you £30m. In a hypothetical question if Scotland had 2 teams in the CL (which may happen soon) would a chairman accept finishing 2nd but getting group stage CL football or win the league and get knocked out in the qualifiers (10iar seasons aside)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Euroshaggers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Getting absolutely steaming on co-efficient points the night 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Scottish football would be in the absolute gutter if it wasn't for Sevco this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMCs Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Over a win ahead of Ukraine. Issue is they now have two sides in Europe beyond Christmas while we only have one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) We're back in 11th, one win ahead of Ukraine - but they have two clubs (seeded/unseeded) in the round of 32 compared up against Rangers. Monday's draw will be all important to see who all three get - I'd say Rangers only really have RB Salzburg to fear from the unseeded clubs. Shakhtar also looked decent in the CL so they are likely to be confident of going through. Young Boys Molde Slavia Granada Real Sociedad Braga Lille M Tel-Aviv Antwerp Wolfsberg Crvena zvezda Krasnodar Salzburg Dynamo Olympiacos 20 minutes ago, edinabear said: Scottish football would be in the absolute gutter if it wasn't for Sevco this year We would still be in 13th place even without Sevco's contribution this year. Edit: this would be a good draw only if the Lille that beat AC Milan turned up... https://draw.inker.one/#/el/ko/2020 Edited December 10, 2020 by Ginaro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Surely you'd want to avoid Real Sociedad as well? Got to be hoping for Antwerp or Molde from that lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Surely you'd want to avoid Real Sociedad as well? Got to be hoping for Antwerp or Molde from that lot. True, didn't notice they were 2nd in La Liga. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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