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Chapeau to @Salt n Vinegar as the only one among the Rangers* support who was brave and sensible enough to both foresee and disown the predictable simian behaviour from his fellow supporters.

To the rest of you on here: shame; absolute shame for defending those thousands of utter morons.

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1 minute ago, Jinky67 said:

Your saying 8 instances as if there is some sort of official count of cunty behaviour that’s happening which I doubt. 

I will ofc stand corrected if you are running around Glasgow city centre keeping track which i both doubt and hope you aren’t.

I would imagine these 8 instances are just the ones people brave enough or felt inclined enough to capture and share, I imagine that real number to a little larger 

 

I have no doubt that there were more than eight instances of "cunty behaviour" tonight. I also think it is 100% certain that there were nowhere near enough examples of "cunty behaviour" that would lead me to write off half a city.

My general take on this is that there definitely is a number of people who attach themselves to Rangers and use the events surrounding that for unacceptable behaviour. I have no idea how large that number is (and I've no idea how anyone could even measure such a thing), but the idea that it's a "majority" or a "decent chunk", as has been claimed by different posters in the last few pages, is clearly wrong. At least, by my definition of those words. My immediate suspicion of those people is that they're only really interested in point scoring.

Here's the thing though, there isn't really anything that you, me or Rangers can do about folk like that. Most of these people are a product of their environment. It's not a Rangers problem - it's a Glasgow problem. In particular, three main contributory factors that I would pinpoint are i) the levels of poverty in some parts of the city, ii) the extremely poor levels of education in those parts of the city, and iii) the culture among a (decreasing) number of young people in Glasgow that makes them think that they need to give folk from a different scheme a smack.

The reason for that line of thinking is that anyone who's been to other non-football events in Glasgow that attracts a similar profile of people - TRNSMT is the obvious example - will know that you see similar behaviour there.

There are loads of normal people who one minute will (correctly) identify that Glasgow has a decades-long poverty issue in the city that must be rectified, and then in the next minute howl in anguish or laughter at the scenes developing in front of them, considering them to be an inexplicable phenomenon that only occurs because the Rangers support is full of the dregs of society. Well, no. What you're actually seeing is the product of that decades-long poverty problem manifesting itself, you just haven't stopped to think about it.

What really pisses me off about it is when I see loads of middle-class gentrifiers laughing or tagging in their local MSPs about it demanding that the cops wade in. You people literally do not understand the city you live in and it's history. You also do not understand that the only way of stopping this is lifting these people out of poverty. You're tagging in your MSP asking him why he hasn't personally picked up a baton to smack these people around instead, because that makes you feel better about yourself. Well done. It reminds me of the same kind of folk who used to get a kick from watching The Scheme.

tl;dr this element does exist, it's nowhere near as big as some people make it out to be, the only people who can really sort it are too busy telling the police to wade in, this is my last post concerning this subject because my rewatch of the game today has just reached the point of Defoe's goal, and I've already spent way too long talking about a subject that most folk aren't really interested in.

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Let’s not kid ourselves, the Ceptic ‘fans’ would be just as bad if they had won anything this year. Let’s face it, both sets of fans are a complete and utter disgrace. The total fucking dregs of society! Get your flares & fireworks, in the bin, it’s been 2 months of Beirut around my place! Give it a fucking rest now, fucking plenty!

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12 minutes ago, 2 for a Foil said:

Let’s not kid ourselves, the Ceptic ‘fans’ would be just as bad if they had won anything this year. Let’s face it, both sets of fans are a complete and utter disgrace. The total fucking dregs of society! Get your flares & fireworks, in the bin, it’s been 2 months of Beirut around my place! Give it a fucking rest now, fucking plenty!

Did we act like this in any of the previous 9? Did we act like this when we stopped 10 in a row?

Answer to both is no 

Dont get me wrong we have instances where we haven’t covered ourselves in glory but nothing like this 

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2 minutes ago, Jinky67 said:

Did we act like this in any of the previous 9? Did we act like this when we stopped 10 in a row?

Answer to both is no 

 

Celtic fans are Scottish football's equivalent of the Von Trapps, full of all the Joy's of humanity.

 

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13 minutes ago, bennett said:

 

Celtic fans are Scottish football's equivalent of the Von Trapps, full of all the Joy's of humanity.

 

No we aren’t let’s not kid ourselves on that particular point

What we also aren’t is intent in turning our city into a scene eerily similar to West fucking Belfast either, turning on ourselves and doing our best to run up the NHS overtime bill

But I guess that’s difference between me and you is that I can see and call out my own fans behaviour when it crosses a line. You and the majority of Rangers posters on here are shitebags 

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1 minute ago, Jinky67 said:

No we aren’t let’s not kid ourselves 

What we also aren’t is intent in turning our city into a scene eerily similar to West fucking Belfast either.

But I guess that’s difference between me and you is that I can see and call out my own fans behaviour when it crosses a line. You and the majority of Rangers posters on here are shitebags 

Boys will be boys, letting off steam, Covid etc.  Was G51 not counting the incidents posted as if they were some sort of freak occurrence and not representative of the situation as a whole? As if P & B is a definitive source - Twitter is awash with these bams going fucking Tonto all over the gaff, often on each other as well.  Wild.  

 

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34 minutes ago, G51 said:

I have no doubt that there were more than eight instances of "cunty behaviour" tonight. I also think it is 100% certain that there were nowhere near enough examples of "cunty behaviour" that would lead me to write off half a city.

My general take on this is that there definitely is a number of people who attach themselves to Rangers and use the events surrounding that for unacceptable behaviour. I have no idea how large that number is (and I've no idea how anyone could even measure such a thing), but the idea that it's a "majority" or a "decent chunk", as has been claimed by different posters in the last few pages, is clearly wrong. At least, by my definition of those words. My immediate suspicion of those people is that they're only really interested in point scoring.

Here's the thing though, there isn't really anything that you, me or Rangers can do about folk like that. Most of these people are a product of their environment. It's not a Rangers problem - it's a Glasgow problem. In particular, three main contributory factors that I would pinpoint are i) the levels of poverty in some parts of the city, ii) the extremely poor levels of education in those parts of the city, and iii) the culture among a (decreasing) number of young people in Glasgow that makes them think that they need to give folk from a different scheme a smack.

The reason for that line of thinking is that anyone who's been to other non-football events in Glasgow that attracts a similar profile of people - TRNSMT is the obvious example - will know that you see similar behaviour there.

There are loads of normal people who one minute will (correctly) identify that Glasgow has a decades-long poverty issue in the city that must be rectified, and then in the next minute howl in anguish or laughter at the scenes developing in front of them, considering them to be an inexplicable phenomenon that only occurs because the Rangers support is full of the dregs of society. Well, no. What you're actually seeing is the product of that decades-long poverty problem manifesting itself, you just haven't stopped to think about it.

What really pisses me off about it is when I see loads of middle-class gentrifiers laughing or tagging in their local MSPs about it demanding that the cops wade in. You people literally do not understand the city you live in and it's history. You also do not understand that the only way of stopping this is lifting these people out of poverty. You're tagging in your MSP asking him why he hasn't personally picked up a baton to smack these people around instead, because that makes you feel better about yourself. Well done. It reminds me of the same kind of folk who used to get a kick from watching The Scheme.

tl;dr this element does exist, it's nowhere near as big as some people make it out to be, the only people who can really sort it are too busy telling the police to wade in, this is my last post concerning this subject because my rewatch of the game today has just reached the point of Defoe's goal, and I've already spent way too long talking about a subject that most folk aren't really interested in.

Ive been going to football for near 50yr and that includes over 50 Scotland away games plus club away games in europe  and i think im being honest when i say that ive never seen so many arseholes. .Looks like France 98 when the Brits/ English were  fighting the local North Africans.. I remember that being  beamed all over France .. RANK..

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20 minutes ago, bennett said:

 

Celtic fans are Scottish football's equivalent of the Von Trapps, full of all the Joy's of humanity.

 

Clearing the road barriers away for the police is the least the rangers fans could do after the police escorted them into the town zippy,hope you had a good day angry celebrations is the sevco way.

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