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39 minutes ago, G51 said:

£12m rising to £16m plus a sell-on for Patterson, can’t turn that kind of money down 

It's a mental fee given the amount of football he's played. That type of fee is one that you'd struggle to gather for even some first team players. I'm sure it wasn't long ago that £15m for Morelos was seen as good money and that was when he was in top form. £16m + a sell on in a league where  average players regularly go for 30m+ could mean that a guy that's played about 15 games at 20 could pull you in 20m+. Utterly mental.

I've been sitting thinking the same about Dykes down south too, we've got a sell on for him and have netted 2.3m guaranteed fees so far from the deal. If he goes for 20m+ we'll be talking about that fee scratching 5m+. Good to see Scottish clubs now holding out for true value on players (at least in comparison to down south). Not to mention if QPR go up we're due another 500k-1m apparently :D 

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46 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

I'd like you to talk me through how postponing some games - but not all - is "totally justified.".

Well, one more time. The Boxing Day fixtures were not postponed because, in the interests of Celtic and Rangers, if either or both went deep into the Europa And Conference Leagues, a fixture pile up would have ensued for one or both them.

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2 minutes ago, kingjoey said:

Well, one more time. The Boxing Day fixtures were not postponed because, in the interests of Celtic and Rangers, if either or both went deep into the Europa And Conference Leagues, a fixture pile up would have ensued for one or both them.

It's the big Rangers thread.  All views are welcome.  You know this.  We are, after all, the most accommodating fans on P&B.  Again, you know this.

That's just a silly idea.  The result of the ballot of diddies and idiots was simply a fudge.  You'd feel happier  just to acknowledge it.

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7 minutes ago, ATLIS said:

It's a mental fee given the amount of football he's played. That type of fee is one that you'd struggle to gather for even some first team players. I'm sure it wasn't long ago that £15m for Morelos was seen as good money and that was when he was in top form. £16m + a sell on in a league where  average players regularly go for 30m+ could mean that a guy that's played about 15 games at 20 could pull you in 20m+. Utterly mental.

I've been sitting thinking the same about Dykes down south too, we've got a sell on for him and have netted 2.3m guaranteed fees so far from the deal. If he goes for 20m+ we'll be talking about that fee scratching 5m+. Good to see Scottish clubs now holding out for true value on players (at least in comparison to down south). Not to mention if QPR go up we're due another 500k-1m apparently :D 

And for Scotland’s point of view look at how well KT, Robbo, McGinn, Dykes and Gilmour have grown as players. Hopefully Patterson will be the same (as well as very rich)

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14 minutes ago, ATLIS said:

It's a mental fee given the amount of football he's played. That type of fee is one that you'd struggle to gather for even some first team players. I'm sure it wasn't long ago that £15m for Morelos was seen as good money and that was when he was in top form. £16m + a sell on in a league where  average players regularly go for 30m+ could mean that a guy that's played about 15 games at 20 could pull you in 20m+. Utterly mental.

I've been sitting thinking the same about Dykes down south too, we've got a sell on for him and have netted 2.3m guaranteed fees so far from the deal. If he goes for 20m+ we'll be talking about that fee scratching 5m+. Good to see Scottish clubs now holding out for true value on players (at least in comparison to down south). Not to mention if QPR go up we're due another 500k-1m apparently :D 

It’s a great deal by Wilson. Setting the market with that kind of deal means you can demand higher fees for your first team regulars. I think it’s a deal that really works for everyone - Rangers set the market, Everton get a great prospect that can start Day 1 and Patterson becomes mega rich and has a much easier path to first team football. It’s just unlucky for Patterson that he was competing against a Jenga piece for game time.

RE: Dykes - he always looked a good player once he carved out that role at Livi, but if you’d told me that he was going to do this well for a Mark Warburton team… I would not have believed that. It’s a credit to Dykes - he wasn’t just one dimensional.

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The Walter Smith tribute was very good on BBC.

How can you get Walter and Ally McCoist, probably two of the soundest c***s ever in Scottish Football that aren't bitter welts at all, just love football and love their football team (old or new) while the rest of you arseholes are bigoted bitter wanks that hate everyone, catholic or not?

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A deal rising to £16m for Patterson is great business from Rangers. Can’t argue with a club record fee for fringe player and will wish him all the best.

His Rangers career looked to be finished before it had even began at one point so it’s quite the turnaround.

Hopefully Gio will get a few mill of that fee to spend in January. At least one centre back is an absolute must.

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The price for failing to reach the CL proper, I guess.

Patterson will be incredible if he develops how everyone expects so you'd think Rangers would have put a sell on clause in there. 

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15 minutes ago, Merkland Red said:

Will be interesting to see how much more we can get for Ramsay now.

It’s a tough time to be selling Ramsay right now, fresh off that injury. You don’t really get to control that though I guess

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14 minutes ago, thepundit said:

A deal rising to £16m for Patterson is great business from Rangers. Can’t argue with a club record fee for fringe player and will wish him all the best.

His Rangers career looked to be finished before it had even began at one point so it’s quite the turnaround.

Hopefully Gio will get a few mill of that fee to spend in January. At least one centre back is an absolute must.

Yeah a centre back would be my go to . Could also be interesting to see if Gio has his eye on any potential  promising Dutch youth who would slot into that back up right back role Patterson was doing . Biggest compliment for Patterson is that After a few games I didn’t worry when he slotted in there whenever Tav was out for whatever reason. 

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We will sign a CB (Sands looks a done deal) but I’d expect the actual money to be spent on positions that are now more valuable to GVB. That would be one of the front five.

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1 hour ago, Forever_blueco said:

I have no idea what you are on about but charge on 

keep on sevcoing

As i have said mi amigo "there's none so blind . . . . . . ."

The only difference between Gretna and the old Rangers was circa £160 odd million.  Tax/NIC/Interest/Penalties as required by HMRC depending on the levels and degrees of "avoidance".

Gretna were correctly told to restart as a new entity in the Lowland League, as befalls any team who goes into Administration/Liquidation where there is no CVA to salvage the original company/business.  Unfortunately for them, they did not have the Doncaster/Regan partnership on their side to shoehorn them into one of the SPFL higher leagues at the cost of Spartans or another team who merited the promotion due to being     a) solvent and     b) having full audited accounts that met the "fair play" criteria.  

Only sayin', like. 

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£9m plus add ons, being widely reported.

Not bad for a kid whos barely played senior football, but if it doesn't include a sell on clause then its too low for a 20yo International. 

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13 minutes ago, G51 said:

It’s a tough time to be selling Ramsay right now, fresh off that injury. You don’t really get to control that though I guess

I'd usually agree but may be the prime time. I don't think there's much between the pair ability wise but Patterson obviously has the international caps.

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13 minutes ago, AJF said:

Sky Sports reporting £12m with £4m in add ons. No mention of a sell on.

Heart & Hand reporting on Twitter there is a sell on %. 

Haven’t seen it reported elsewhere so will take it with pinch of salt for now.

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1 hour ago, Hoose Rice said:

ou arseholes are bigoted bitter wanks that hate everyone, catholic or not?

Ooooft - you almost made a good post.  Second only to your 'flag twirling diddies' one but then you dropped a bollock.

Then it all went wrong and you're no more than an ignorant, empty-headed diddy.

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1 hour ago, AJF said:

Aye, if the reported fees are to be believed then it’s not something we can turn down to be fair.

Well, you could play him and flog Tavernier for slightly less.  It seems like an awful lot of money, but he’s by far the best prospect your team has produced in quite some time.  

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