The_Kincardine Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jdog said: It actually means Rangers don't think the SFA can rule on this ...and the SFA agree!...a basic preliminary proceeding The SFA agree that an issue they sought to rule on isn't an issue that they are able to rule on? This is what utter simpletons think. The SFA tried to bring a charge against Rangers and couldn't make it stick. This is what anyone with an ounce of sense thinks. The CAS reference is nothing more than a sop to appease the Clause 12 plastic morons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: The SFA agree that an issue they sought to rule on isn't an issue that they are able to rule on? This is what utter simpletons think. Well (sic) "suspend your belief" Having received submissions on 26 June the Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal have issued a decision upholding the preliminary issue raised by the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 hours ago, bennett said: After ten months of ineptly investigating Sevco, the SFAs QC led legal team cock it up again. Oh has anyone seen @hellbhoy recently? " The Scottish Football Association will have to go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport to pursue a case against Rangers for an alleged breach of rules over a UEFA licence. The Glasgow club's legal team has successfully argued that the issues surrounding the licence for the 2011-12 season would need to be dealt with by the Swiss-based court under the terms of the five-way agreement, which allowed Rangers to continue playing in 2012. Rangers refused to accept a notice of complaint issued in May by the Celtic compliance officer which raised two charges relating to complying with UEFA rules, observing the principles of sportsmanship and "behaving towards the Scottish FA and other members with the utmost good faith" You rang? Smoke screen and mirrors at work. Only the SFA could try to punish The Rangers knowing full well they made rules and regulations changes so they could not hand out fitting punitive measures in advance. My only hope is the SFA have fucked things up so badly that the club they are trying to protect get fucked over by an administrative error in the fudged up new rules and regulations they didn't quite cover by overlooking a small piece of wording. Most likely just going through the motions of satisfying a fringe of the Celtic support still fuming over Rangers not getting a decent burial. whilst at the same time maintaining the siege mentality at Gestapo HQ in Govan that everyone is out to get them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Do celtic fans just sit around all day fannying around with Photoshop..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Feel this is sufficient to share across 2 threads. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/44888334 -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Dindeleux said: Feel this is sufficient to share across 2 threads.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/44888334 Quite right too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, bennett said: Quite right too. Racially abusing a child isn't right by the way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killiefan Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Flybhoy said: The people Brilliant, typifies how thick these inbreds really are. Ten a penny in Ibrox. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 29 minutes ago, Dindeleux said: Feel this is sufficient to share across 2 threads.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/44888334 Saw this on the news earlier. The club have done the right thing in contacting police so fair play. Obviously enough, not all Rangers fans share such views - in fact hardly any do. However, pretty much all the Scottish people who do see things that way, are very likely to identify with Rangers. A glance at the support in the photo that accompanies the article, tells us why that particular club is the one of choice for people who speak of "white power". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 14 hours ago, Flybhoy said: The people He was goaded...by himself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 20 hours ago, Flybhoy said: The people Not the brightest. This kind of thing, along with the abuse of Macedonian beggars, is why most right thinking people despite fans of that club. And anyone saying "aye but its a minority" or "the club is trying its best" hasnt seen Ibrox in full song, or the Orange strips they will shortly be selling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Flip flops for fuck sake. Unless your at the beach or beside the pool on holiday in Spain or somewhere, they aren't acceptable.Never acceptable! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Every Rangers fan in existence is a carbon copy of that guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest of Dean Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Ian Maxwell faces the biggest decision of his career as the SFA contemplates a six figure legal bill to hit Rangers with a £5,000 fine. Hampden bosses are staring at a showdown with Rangers in the highest court in sport after the Ibrox club won a legal battle over the award of their UEFA licence in 2011. Rangers successfully argued the SFA’s judicial panel disciplinary tribunal could not sit in judgement under the terms of the five way agreement signed with football authorities in the aftermath of the club’s financial collapse in 2012. Now the ball has been thrown back into the court of chief executive Maxwell and his six strong SFA board to determine if they’re going all the way to the Court of Arbitration of Sport in Switzerland, or if they’ll drop the case for good. It’s estimated the legal bill for a court case in Lausanne would amount to a substantial six figure sum, which Rangers believe would be better off spent in the Scottish game. But senior Hampden sources admit if they don’t take the case it could leave them facing accusations of a denial of judicial process, favouritism and a failure of transparency. Under the relevant SFA articles, only two punishments are facing Rangers if they are found guilty - a £5,000 fine or a £10,000 penalty and suspension from football for a year. Traditionally, CAS have not been a sanctioning body and even if they found in favour of the SFA the case would be handed back to the judicial panel to pass its sentence. As it’s an historic case, no fresh financial penalties could be handed out and with even senior SFA figures admitting suspension from the game for Rangers is extremely unlikely, it would leave them with no option but to hit them with a £5,000 slap in the wrist. CAS could take on a sanctioning role, but it’s believed Rangers would refuse to co-operate under those terms, with talks set to continue over a framework for any Swiss discussions. A Rangers spokesman said: “Rangers has always been clear about the futility of this action and hopes the Scottish FA will now put the matter to bed and agree to move on and concentrate on the development of Scottish Football in the interests of all members of the SFA.” An SFA statement read: “This preliminary issue raised by Rangers FC challenged the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA’s Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal to hear the case, and contended that the notice of complaint must be determined by the Court of Arbitration for Sport. “Having received submissions on 26 June the Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal have issued a decision upholding the preliminary issue raised by the club. “The Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal proposes to continue consideration of the complaint until parties consider next steps and terms of reference for any remit to CAS.” Rangers refused to accept a notice of complaint issued in May by the SFA which raised two charges relating to complying with UEFA rules and observing the principles of sportsmanship. Rangers subsequently hit out and claimed football is being directed by “individuals intent on harming the Scottish game.” Looks likely that even if this went to CAS and we were judged against that the punishment would only amount to a £5k fine... What a spectacular waste of time and money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 You can't put a price on justice. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennysmassiveego Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Perhaps Mr Lawless could help fund this action against sevco ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Forest of Dean said: Ian Maxwell faces the biggest decision of his career as the SFA contemplates a six figure legal bill to hit Rangers with a £5,000 fine. Hampden bosses are staring at a showdown with Rangers in the highest court in sport after the Ibrox club won a legal battle over the award of their UEFA licence in 2011. Rangers successfully argued the SFA’s judicial panel disciplinary tribunal could not sit in judgement under the terms of the five way agreement signed with football authorities in the aftermath of the club’s financial collapse in 2012. Now the ball has been thrown back into the court of chief executive Maxwell and his six strong SFA board to determine if they’re going all the way to the Court of Arbitration of Sport in Switzerland, or if they’ll drop the case for good. It’s estimated the legal bill for a court case in Lausanne would amount to a substantial six figure sum, which Rangers believe would be better off spent in the Scottish game. But senior Hampden sources admit if they don’t take the case it could leave them facing accusations of a denial of judicial process, favouritism and a failure of transparency. Under the relevant SFA articles, only two punishments are facing Rangers if they are found guilty - a £5,000 fine or a £10,000 penalty and suspension from football for a year. Traditionally, CAS have not been a sanctioning body and even if they found in favour of the SFA the case would be handed back to the judicial panel to pass its sentence. As it’s an historic case, no fresh financial penalties could be handed out and with even senior SFA figures admitting suspension from the game for Rangers is extremely unlikely, it would leave them with no option but to hit them with a £5,000 slap in the wrist. CAS could take on a sanctioning role, but it’s believed Rangers would refuse to co-operate under those terms, with talks set to continue over a framework for any Swiss discussions. A Rangers spokesman said: “Rangers has always been clear about the futility of this action and hopes the Scottish FA will now put the matter to bed and agree to move on and concentrate on the development of Scottish Football in the interests of all members of the SFA.” An SFA statement read: “This preliminary issue raised by Rangers FC challenged the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA’s Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal to hear the case, and contended that the notice of complaint must be determined by the Court of Arbitration for Sport. “Having received submissions on 26 June the Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal have issued a decision upholding the preliminary issue raised by the club. “The Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal proposes to continue consideration of the complaint until parties consider next steps and terms of reference for any remit to CAS.” Rangers refused to accept a notice of complaint issued in May by the SFA which raised two charges relating to complying with UEFA rules and observing the principles of sportsmanship. Rangers subsequently hit out and claimed football is being directed by “individuals intent on harming the Scottish game.” Looks likely that even if this went to CAS and we were judged against that the punishment would only amount to a £5k fine... What a spectacular waste of time and money. Why don't Rangers name these people that are intent on harming the game?...we demand to know! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 hours ago, nsr said: Every Rangers fan in existence is a carbon copy of that guy. A convenient idea, but not remotely accurate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Forest of Dean said: Ian Maxwell faces the biggest decision of his career as the SFA contemplates a six figure legal bill to hit Rangers with a £5,000 fine. Hampden bosses are staring at a showdown with Rangers in the highest court in sport after the Ibrox club won a legal battle over the award of their UEFA licence in 2011. Rangers successfully argued the SFA’s judicial panel disciplinary tribunal could not sit in judgement under the terms of the five way agreement signed with football authorities in the aftermath of the club’s financial collapse in 2012. Now the ball has been thrown back into the court of chief executive Maxwell and his six strong SFA board to determine if they’re going all the way to the Court of Arbitration of Sport in Switzerland, or if they’ll drop the case for good. It’s estimated the legal bill for a court case in Lausanne would amount to a substantial six figure sum, which Rangers believe would be better off spent in the Scottish game. But senior Hampden sources admit if they don’t take the case it could leave them facing accusations of a denial of judicial process, favouritism and a failure of transparency. Under the relevant SFA articles, only two punishments are facing Rangers if they are found guilty - a £5,000 fine or a £10,000 penalty and suspension from football for a year. Traditionally, CAS have not been a sanctioning body and even if they found in favour of the SFA the case would be handed back to the judicial panel to pass its sentence. As it’s an historic case, no fresh financial penalties could be handed out and with even senior SFA figures admitting suspension from the game for Rangers is extremely unlikely, it would leave them with no option but to hit them with a £5,000 slap in the wrist. CAS could take on a sanctioning role, but it’s believed Rangers would refuse to co-operate under those terms, with talks set to continue over a framework for any Swiss discussions. A Rangers spokesman said: “Rangers has always been clear about the futility of this action and hopes the Scottish FA will now put the matter to bed and agree to move on and concentrate on the development of Scottish Football in the interests of all members of the SFA.” An SFA statement read: “This preliminary issue raised by Rangers FC challenged the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA’s Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal to hear the case, and contended that the notice of complaint must be determined by the Court of Arbitration for Sport. “Having received submissions on 26 June the Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal have issued a decision upholding the preliminary issue raised by the club. “The Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal proposes to continue consideration of the complaint until parties consider next steps and terms of reference for any remit to CAS.” Rangers refused to accept a notice of complaint issued in May by the SFA which raised two charges relating to complying with UEFA rules and observing the principles of sportsmanship. Rangers subsequently hit out and claimed football is being directed by “individuals intent on harming the Scottish game.” Looks likely that even if this went to CAS and we were judged against that the punishment would only amount to a £5k fine... What a spectacular waste of time and money. Do the SFA ever get anything right, a QC led legal spent almost a year looking for charges to bring against Rangers at their judicial panel. Only to be told that they'd gotten it wrong again. I've a feeling that a CAS case would also leave them with egg on their faces. But the moon howlers must be appeased at all costs. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, bennett said: Do the SFA ever get anything right, I know!..the let Sevco leapfrog Spartans to join D4 FFS! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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