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1 minute ago, PauloPerth said:

You really think Chris Kane can make it happen this season?  

^^ Didn't watch till the end IMO.

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This is a bloody joke !

The first time around, I fully understood the clubs stance, when Vine asked for more money at the 11th hour.  We had to take a stand and show that we were not going to be held to ransom.  

This time, however, Steve Brown has royally screwed this up, and has really showed himself up.  Why he thought anyone, in their right mind, would accept a lower offer when only 2 weeks ago they were being offered a higher amount is beyond comprehension.  

It almost smacks of Brown getting back at May for his agents actions.  I understand that Brown was probably hurt and angry at the time, but it appears is if May has gone to Vine and told him to accept that existing offer, without any of the nonsense, and Brown has taken that deal off the table and offered a new one - just what Vine did the first time around.

It is doubly disappointing as we have known for months that we needed a striker - Watt was not signing a new deal, McMillan was told to find another club and it was clear that Kane and Hendry are not good enough to be first choice at this level, yet we appear to have put all our eggs into the basket of Stevie May and it has backfired spectacularly.  Another "target" has joined Dundee, and again it appears to be because of penny pinching as Brown was unwilling to offer him a contract and only wanted him on loan.

We should have had a list of targets, and as soon as they May deal fell through, then we should have simply moved on to the next target.  Instead, it appears that we have not targeted anyone else, and waited for May to come back to us, only to give him the finger, leaving us scrambling around again hoping a half-way decent striker, if not two, will appear from nowhere.

Brown has shafted Tommy, the team and the fans with this latest debacle, and the whole club looks really stupid as well. 🤬

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Ive deleted it Ludo. There is no humour to be had here.

Kane Hemmings would have been the perfect fit for our team, and would have bagged 15+ goals. To be honest, if I'd been told at the start of the summer that he would be our only first team signing, i would have been delighted.

No offence, but the fact he's chosen to join a team in the division below makes it a tough one to accept when we still haven't got a striker of our own in.  But fair play to the Dee, great signing.

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20 minutes ago, Radford said:

None of them are an out ball, which at least Kane is to give him his dues. His problem is his profligacy in front of goal.

We need a centre forward, someone that can play with their back to goal or at the very least has the intelligence to take up useful positions in the attacking third.

We have this great threat in attacking midfield but neither the player ahead of them to benefit from it nor the base in the middle of the park from which to give them a platform to play.

Five months searching for a striker suggests that the players the manager would be happy with, the club can't afford, and the players the club can afford, the manager isn't happy with. Someone will have to compromise and unfortunately I know who it will be.

That is true.  It's on games like Saturday where we really miss the Steve Maclean - someone who can shield the ball, win a foul and take the pressure off for a minute or two and I would argue we have never replaced Millar or Morris before him at the base of midfield. 

Having said all that for a bit of perspective I look at the squads of St Mirren, Hamilton, Ross County and Livingston and I cant find anyone in their squads I would take who would be an automatic starter with us. Maybe Pittman or Jacobs from Livvy at a push? 

I'm as disappointed with the summer as the next guy but I would rather wait and see who is left once the English windows shut than throw a 3-year deal to a top earner that has scored 15 times in 5 years.  

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1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

That's Hemmings confirmed for us. I'd assume now that our deal for May is off the table.

Which is why Stevie Broon lowballed May.

Quite funny how bitter folk can be, very amusing. 

Edited by tree house tam

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To be fair to Brown, I think it highlights what a greedy b*****d May is that we can tempt Hemmings who'll have been on a bigger wage than May, yet May is still humming and ha'ing.

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The same WAP poster who told us we'd be "signing a young english winger" just days before Drey Wright signed, is saying Wright has resigned and itll be announced at 12.

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1 minute ago, Ludo*1 said:

To be fair to Brown, I think it highlights what a greedy b*****d May is that we can tempt Hemmings who'll have been on a bigger wage than May, yet May is still humming and ha'ing.

Would depend on all the figures involved, a guess would be he'd be, at least, halving his Aberdeen wage to join us.

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Just now, RandomGuy. said:

Would depend on all the figures involved, a guess would be he'd be, at least, halving his Aberdeen wage to join us.

And likely to us as well.

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2 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:

And likely to us as well.

I dont think he ever had any intention of joining Dundee, tbh.

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2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

I dont think he ever had any intention of joining Dundee, tbh.

Which is the point - greed/inflated opinion of himself.

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Just now, Ludo*1 said:

Which is the point - greed/inflated opinion of himself.

I dunno, tbh, I'm just scunnered of the whole thing.

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8 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

The same WAP poster who told us we'd be "signing a young english winger" just days before Drey Wright signed, is saying Wright has resigned and itll be announced at 12.

Hes now deleted the post, to save anyone trying to find it.

Was the "McDiarmid mole" poster, cant remember if hes been right or wrong before, cant be arsed checking.

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We've not even paid a fee for Hemmings and you guys put in a loan offer, FFS! :lol:

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I'd have had Hemmings before May. This is a huge f**k up.

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17 minutes ago, Saint Paul said:

it appears is if May has gone to Vine and told him to accept that existing offer, without any of the nonsense, and Brown has taken that deal off the table and offered a new one - just what Vine did the first time around.

No it is not. May reneged on an agreed deal. Brown hasn't.  There was no deal on the table to take off.

You can argue the sense or otherwise of Brown's approach, but don't compare it to the dishonesty Brown faced last time around.

That said, I still think it's perfectly plausible May will come to Perth. I simply can't see anyone else at our level paying as much as we would.

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2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Hes now deleted the post, to save anyone trying to find it.

Was the "McDiarmid mole" poster, cant remember if hes been right or wrong before, cant be arsed checking.

Yes, I saw that too - it was the McDiarmid Mole, but the post was swiftly deleted

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