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1 minute ago, Jamie_Beatson said:

if he ends up at St Mirren or Dundee are we seriously saying they're in a better financial position to meet May's demands than us? That seems unlikely.

It's more than just unlikely, that.

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With Saints PR skills, any statement will likely be released at 17.00.

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Dropped away from following this too much earlier in the week as the rumours and speculation were getting ridiculous and I didn’t think it could get any worse, oh how wrong I was!

If the deals dead then so be it, fingers will get pointed, people will go in the huff for a while and then ultimately move on. However the optimist in me would like to think that as there has been soooo much complaining about Saints public relations (and rightly so I may add) recently, that they’re actually playing an absolute blinder here, trolling f**k out of all the moaners and all of this is a massive publicity stunt culminating in the announcement of May and whomever else has been targeted. Just look at the traffic online the rumours have been causing alone!

Folk would be both raging and excited at the same time, although I suspect the optimist in me will be disappointed once again. 
 

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2 minutes ago, perthsaint1977 said:

Wonder if may will return the training gear he left the stadium with on Tuesday

Oh you fucking tease

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WAP at its finest 

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All I can see right now is Dundee we’re wanting him permanently and there was a delay on the transfer fee, we express our interests and his contract gets mutually terminated by Aberdeen and we start talks now they collapse. Great way for us to give the Scum a player they can afford without paying a transfer fee for. 

Fantastic, we have negotiated the release of his contract (Not May or Vine funnily enough) and he signs for Dundee, thus we have single handedly saved Dundee a transfer fee. 

It shall all become clear in the next few days however, as;

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I am playing Golf with 2 Aberdeen Directors tomorrow so hopefully they can perhaps give an insight as to what has gone on

 

 

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19 minutes ago, perthsaint1977 said:

Wonder if may will return the training gear he left the stadium with on Tuesday

Na he'll wear it on the weekends he's injured while still taking a big fat Dee paycheck. 

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1 hour ago, Jamie_Beatson said:

If May ends up at Dundee or St Mirren Brown is going to have a lot to answer for. As Radford says, they can't just stay silent on this. There's been massive disquiet about our summer business and a real sense of apathy amongst the support, which looked ldeal ike being alleviated by the signature of May. You could almost guarantee it'd put extra bodies on the gate/extra ST sales. To get as far as we have only for it to fall to bits at the last second may well be down to wage demands - but as far as I'm concerned the only way that should have become an issue for us is if there's been a sudden ramping up in demands *after* the medical was completed.

The whole situation is a shambles, and the problem Brown now has is that any statement he issues is either going to blame the agent (and by extension the player) for making excessive wage demands (thus burning bridges with one of our most popular and, in recent times iconic, ex players) or is going to invite enormous criticism on himself by admitting he's refused to make funds available having previously promised to "go the extra mile"/

It's a ridiculous situation, and if he ends up at St Mirren or Dundee are we seriously saying they're in a better financial position to meet May's demands than us? That seems unlikely.

Disagree. 

In any other employment situation, if you agree a deal in principle and pass the medical and then at the last minute turn around and demand a higher salary, you can GTF. You negotiate before a contract's drawn up. 

In my book that would be acting in bad faith. No idea if that's what happened here but if it did then I would not blame Brown. 

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23 minutes ago, deej said:

Oh you fucking tease

I don't think he was suggesting what you're thinking hes suggesting.

I think.

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3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

I don't think he was suggesting what you're thinking hes suggesting.

I think.

I don't know what's happening anymore

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13 minutes ago, deej said:

Fantastic, we have negotiated the release of his contract (Not May or Vine funnily enough) and he signs for Dundee, thus we have single handedly saved Dundee a transfer fee. 

Nonsense (and barely readable). 

Any release would have been contingent on the signing with Saints. Otherwise they're just making him a free agent. 

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4 minutes ago, Valentino Bolognese said:

Disagree. 

In any other employment situation, if you agree a deal in principle and pass the medical and then at the last minute turn around and demand a higher salary, you can GTF. You negotiate before a contract's drawn up. 

In my book that would be acting in bad faith. No idea if that's what happened here but if it did then I would not blame Brown. 

Agent will be wanting his fee now, SB standard answer "Go and get Fucked no fee from us", agent "deal is dead then", Player has nothing to do with it.  

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1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said:

 


Oh wow you were serious?

 

I have my naive moments... long story but once managed to be lured into sending an email around the entire office asking if anyone had received a call from a " mr Mabozza Ritchie" so it would'nt take an elaborate wind up to reel me in...

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He'll still sign for us, SB will pull out his "going the extra mile" card, Vine back in his box and a 2 year deal 😁 

Top trolling from the club for the last couple of days 😆

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35 minutes ago, Center half said:

Agent will be wanting his fee now, SB standard answer "Go and get Fucked no fee from us", agent "deal is dead then", Player has nothing to do with it.  

Wasn't suggesting it was a player issue. Also though, that sort of stuff gets sorted pre-contract. Both agent and club would be aware of each other's standard terms such as the source of funding of fees. In fact that must be a very very common part of settling a contract like this. It won't be a '5 minutes to midnight' type issue. 

If you try to re-negotiate a contract after it's been drawn up, it's generally regarded as being in bad faith unless there's been a material change in circumstances (e.g. a medical throws something up).

Who knows WFT happened. To me, the most likely is something we don't know about that would be 'new information'. Another club making an offer might be that but it would be shoddy on their part, not ours. 

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shitty punctuation

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Odd if he's not going to come. Would any other team give him a better chance of resurrecting his career (all the goodwill here, a return to a successful environment). And would any club pay much more to attract him? If anyone is going to pay over the odds to get the 2019 Stevie May, it’s probably Saints. 

So if we've pulled out, I'm sure it's for a good reason. It’s telling, though, that we'd put everything on a player who's struggled to string together a decent 90 minutes over the last five years, rather than trust ourselves with anyone else. Our track record shows exactly why.

 

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