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Aye, who knows. I'm just scunnered of the whole thing, tbh. Spent years getting friend's go try and go, they all claimed they'd start going after the Cup win, and then straight away the same excuses came out. Its draining, so to see people seeming to suggest how easy it would be to increase the support just aggravates me, as none of it works.
Sorry if I've been an arsehole. 
You haven't been an arsehole. For once your posts are valid and make a lot of sense.

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Yes might be worth a try.
I am curious about the social media side of everything though... as RG said, does it actually make a difference? When Ross was doing loads of good stuff; player interviews, match highlights, promotions.. did it actually have a bearing on attendances?
Or does it just serve the purpose of keeping folk connected to what's going on at St Johnstone, they're still in touch with what's  happening, but don't feel a need to go along to a game because there's an absolute stack of better quality games live on tv all week?
 
There wasn't a better quality game on than Saints last weekend.

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I’m definitely in favour of a fan zone outside McDiarmid. Sell Tennents on draft, get some TVs on the go with highlights of Saints goals from all eras, have stalls selling merchandise, have competitions you can enter for prizes, get a jukebox on the go and get the tunes on, do meet and greets with players. I’d be sold.

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What does it matter how many people attend the games? You guys have had and outstanding period of success in the last decade, just enjoy it

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50 minutes ago, The Marly said:
2 hours ago, tree house tam said:
Even the die hards go through spells of not going/going while pissed off, I've certainly done it over the years. Combination of factors for that though, being skint, having a family and not being in the country being the main ones. Couldn't give a f**k if there's 3 men and their dog watching saints because I'll likely be one of the 3.

No you fucking won't. You'd be the dog.

Or inside the dog.

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33 minutes ago, jamamafegan said:

I’m definitely in favour of a fan zone outside McDiarmid. Sell Tennents on draft, get some TVs on the go with highlights of Saints goals from all eras, have stalls selling merchandise, have competitions you can enter for prizes, get a jukebox on the go and get the tunes on, do meet and greets with players. I’d be sold.

f**k Tennents,  Innis and Gunn have a brewery in Perth. 

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1 minute ago, tree house tam said:

f**k Tennents,  Innis and Gunn have a brewery in Perth. 

Tam the hipster, who’d have thunk it.

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Just now, ali_91 said:

Tam the hipster, who’d have thunk it.

I like both but if we're trying to do things connected to the area, Innis and Gunn is the way to go. Get the inveralmond brewery involved. 

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Brewdog is shite, it's a shite chain selling shite drink for wankers. HTH.


f**k Tennents,  Innis and Gunn have a brewery in Perth. 


Who even are you?

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3 hours ago, Crroma said:

What does it matter how many people attend the games? You guys have had and outstanding period of success in the last decade, just enjoy it

It doesn't matter at all in a "look at our great attendances way". 

My only worry would be if there was no improvement at all in home crowds despite playing well and winning, the chairman/ manager will realise there is absolutely nothing that will bring more fans along, and get a dose of the fuckums and lose all ambition for the club.

I don't believe there will continue to be no improvement if we carry on the way we've been playing, I'm optimistic that gradually more locals will come and see what all the fuss is about.  However, if not, I wouldn't blame the manager for not wanting to sign a new contract, and the chairman for limiting spending on players wages to an absolute minimum in future.

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Lets try everything!!  Advertising and marketing does work, otherwise companies won't be spending a fortune on it.  Sitting back and saying it wont work for us is the Scottish pessimistic way. Keep pushing forward with advertising and social media improvements.  Aim it at the youngsters, they will drag their parents along - if they moan loud enough!!

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It doesn't matter at all in a "look at our great attendances way". 
My only worry would be if there was no improvement at all in home crowds despite playing well and winning, the chairman/ manager will realise there is absolutely nothing that will bring more fans along, and get a dose of the fuckums and lose all ambition for the club.
I don't believe there will continue to be no improvement if we carry on the way we've been playing, I'm optimistic that gradually more locals will come and see what all the fuss is about.  However, if not, I wouldn't blame the manager for not wanting to sign a new contract, and the chairman for limiting spending on players wages to an absolute minimum in future.


Shit home crowds will have a detrimental affect on players willing to sign for us if it gets any worse.
Playing in an empty stadium every week must be pretty soul destroying when your playing well.

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7 hours ago, jamamafegan said:

 

 

 


Who even are you?

 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, jamamafegan said:

Let’s all get kegs from Inveralmond and have a kegger. Cheeky kegger with all the lads.

Keep jobs in Perth,  more chance of them or their kids watching Saints. If Tennents open a brewery in Perth then aye get those fuckers roped in too, as it is they're all old firm wankers from Glasgow. 

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Brewdog was alright 6/7 years ago when it was a small craft company who put the beer first. Since they opened a second bar in Edinburgh they’re nowhere near as packed as they used to be. Inveralmond is definitely a better brewery right now in terms of producing quality.

Either way I don’t understand sometimes why he club don’t open up the bar inside the main stand to fans as well. I’ve been turned away from the Muirton cause it’s full well over half an hour before kick off as well.

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Lets try everything!!  Advertising and marketing does work, otherwise companies won't be spending a fortune on it.  Sitting back and saying it wont work for us is the Scottish pessimistic way. Keep pushing forward with advertising and social media improvements.  Aim it at the youngsters, they will drag their parents along - if they moan loud enough!!


It’s pretty clear to me that the club isn’t willing to spend the necessary cash on a long-term, well thought out marketing programme.

For me hiring one guy to run the media side isn’t enough (and I don’t think it’s particularly fair that he’s being slaughtered on here and elsewhere for the current output given we don’t know what restraints he’s working under) - there needs to be a full marketing/comms team, probably consisting of at least three/four people over and above what is there just now, with a budget to spend.

I do PR work for a company that has half the turnover that Saints do in a very niche market. They employ one person full time running social media, have me doing their press stuff, are part owned by a guy who owns a major marketing firm down south and have a team of staff from that firm working on their marketing.

Football clubs are in a unique position where virtually anything they do will get in the local press, probably the national press too, and they’re guaranteed a large social media following. There’s no excuse for not getting the message out there to the people who have an interest in hearing it.

Invest in it and you’ll see a return in the long term. We also need to make it easier for people to give the club their money, something that is staggeringly hard just now.

Also think the league could do more in terms of marketing the game as a whole in Scotland (they are starting to do this to an extent) but that’s not really our issue.

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