RandomGuy. Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 From The Courier today. Sounds like there's a chance we "miss out" on Bryson, which would be devastating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, Costanza said: Looks like Motherwell are going to beat us to Byrne. Strange for them to sign a player we're interested in........ With their tiny budget as well. Very strange. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kyle said: With their tiny budget as well. Very strange. Tbf with the sale of Turnbull, plus a sell on for Kipre, they're probably not far off £3m in fees coming in this window. Remarkable what buying young players, playing them, promoting them, getting them on long deals and then selling them can do for a club. Looked like a route we were heading down last season, but we'd likely replace Jason Kerr with Gary Caldwell now. Edited September 16, 2020 by RandomGuy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 14 hours ago, Radford said: It brings joy to my heart that I no longer need to watch Ross Callqchan or Paul Paton in our midfield. That game against Trakai should've seen the end of Paul Paton at Saints. Their players just waited for him to get the ball and would just take it away from him after his inevitably shite first touch. They sussed him after 5 minutes in the home game and it happened countless times. Callachan was no better, possibly even worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 If you'd combined Paton and Callachan, you'd still have had a rubbish player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Tbf with the sale of Turnbull, plus a sell on for Kipre, they're probably not far off £3m in fees coming in this window. Remarkable what buying young players, playing them, promoting them, getting them on long deals and then selling them can do for a club. Looked like a route we were heading down last season, but we'd likely replace Jason Kerr with Gary Caldwell now. In fairness, it's doubtful we actually made anything out of a sell on for Kipré due to Wigan's administrators punting him for £900k. The general train of thought was that we might be looking to waive any nominal fee but try and make Lang's loan permanent but there's been nothing further on that. Either way, depending on how much faith you have in reported transfer fees in the media then our pivot to the player trading strategy when Les Hutchison got involved has brought in close to £9m. Spoiler 20/21 - David Turnbull (Celtic) - £3m - Transfer 19/20 - James Scott (Hull City) - £1.5m - Transfer 19/20 - Reece McAlear (Norwich City) - £250k - Transfer 19/20 - Jake Hastie (Rangers) £350k - Development Compensation 19/20 - Stuart McKinstry (Leeds United) - £400k - Transfer 18/19 - Ryan Bowman (Exeter City) - £30k - Transfer 18/19 - Cedric Kipré (Wigan) - c.£1m - Transfer 17/18 - Louis Moult (Preston North End) - £500k - Transfer 17/18 - Ben Heneghan (Sheffield United) - £350k-ish - Transfer 16/17 - Marvin Johnson (Oxford United) - £750k-ish including sell on - Transfer 16/17 - Stephen Pearson (Atletico Kolkata) - £100k - Transfer 16/17 - Ben Hall (Brighton) - £210k - Development Compensation 14/15 - Lee Erwin (Leeds United) - £500k - Development Compensation Total = £8.94m For a bit of context during McCall's time as manager (2010 - 2014) we brought in £800k. Spoiler 10/11 - Mark Reynolds (Sheffield Wednesday) - £100k 11/12 - John Sutton (Hearts) - free 12/13 - Steve Jennings (Coventry City) - free 12/13 - Jamie Murphy (Sheffield United) - £100k 12/13 - Nicky Law (Rangers) - free 13/14 - Darren Randolph (Birminham) - free 13/14 - Chris Humphrey (Preston North End) - free 13/14 - Henrik Ojamaa - (Legia Warsaw) - £300k 13/14 - Michael Higdon - (NEC Nijmegen) - free 13/14 - Tom Hateley - (Tranmere Rovers) - free 14/15 - Shaun Hutchinson (Fulham) - free 14/15 - Henri Anier (Erzgebirge Aue) - £300k Total: £800k. Fully aware I'm posting this with us sitting bottom of the league so I'm absolutely not giving it the big "look at us" but it's really just to support your point about the difference a change in strategy can have with that sort of thing. Edited September 16, 2020 by capt_oats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 It'll be moved to the Sunday anyway. The night before is Europa League playoffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Are we not playing on the Tuesday after? It'll be moved to the Sunday anyway. The night before is Europa League playoffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: Are we not playing on the Tuesday after? League cup. More likely that gets moved to the Wednesday. Thats certainly more likely than Celtic playing their European tie on the Wednesday as UEFA absolutely won't move their fixtures to accommodate SPFL and SFA simply won't ask Celtic to play us on the Friday or Saturday with their game on the Thursday. Unless Celtic get knocked out though, then it doesnt matter! Edited September 16, 2020 by Mr Positive, sometimes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Kelty game could end up off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Kelty game could end up off.Thinking out the box here, could saints not offer to switch it to McDiarmid and have the Kelty players tested there and maybe split the costs? So long as they’re kept separate and only turn up and get tested before leaving again that would surely help them out. Appreciate it’ll never happen since they’d also face the same issues against the lower league teams, but there must be a way around it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, Widge said: Thinking out the box here, could saints not offer to switch it to McDiarmid and have the Kelty players tested there and maybe split the costs? So long as they’re kept separate and only turn up and get tested before leaving again that would surely help them out. Appreciate it’ll never happen since they’d also face the same issues against the lower league teams, but there must be a way around it. United would have to do similar for Kelty as well. There's a chance the whole thing could end up binned if quite a few of the part time sides withdraw for the same reason. Can't see many of them seeing the value in paying for tests for closed door games against Premiership sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mr Positive, sometimes. said: Kelty game could end up off. From the manager of a club who were outspending ICT for players. Sorry if I've no sympathy. Edited September 17, 2020 by RandomGuy. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Jenkins Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 id rather just have the three points, cant see us scoring anyway 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: From the manager of a club who were outspending ICT for players. Sorry if I've no sympathy. Well this is very true and I don't think they of all teams have any right to talk about resources. 19 minutes ago, Mr Positive, sometimes. said: United would have to do similar for Kelty as well. There's a chance the whole thing could end up binned if quite a few of the part time sides withdraw for the same reason. Can't see many of them seeing the value in paying for tests for closed door games against Premiership sides. Yeah United would need to do likewise, I don't see it happening, but if there is ever a time to help other teams out, now is that time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: From the manager of a club who were outspending ICT for players. Sorry if I've no sympathy. I was more looking from a perspective of that is the fixture meant to be the Tuesday following our Friday Celtic fixture that was discussed yesterday as likely being moved. If the League cup game does end up in the bin the Celtic game will end up on the Monday or something I didn't really put much thought into to whether they could or couldnt afford tests. Although yeah, a bit pot kettle complaining about costs but that seems typical of football clubs right now. England was prime for "were making 50 staff at the club redundant" then the same day announcing new signings on 250k a week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Nadir Ciftci is apparently up for grabs... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marly Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I was more looking from a perspective of that is the fixture meant to be the Tuesday following our Friday Celtic fixture that was discussed yesterday as likely being moved. If the League cup game does end up in the bin the Celtic game will end up on the Monday or something [emoji52] I didn't really put much thought into to whether they could or couldnt afford tests. Although yeah, a bit pot kettle complaining about costs but that seems typical of football clubs right now. England was prime for "were making 50 staff at the club redundant" then the same day announcing new signings on 250k a week. Not just England.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, The Real Saints said: Nadir Ciftci is apparently up for grabs... I cant imagine us going for such a "maverick" this season. Feels like we're trying to offset having a rookie manager by building an easy to manage, experienced, squad. Ciftci, and Stokes, don't fit that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Is Wallace Duffy any good lads? Joined us for the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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