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4 minutes ago, Dick Van Dyke said:

We’ve received money in transfer fees and never spent a single penny 

We pay more in wages than St Mirren though.

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They've raked at least a million from the John McGinn sell on clause. I'm sure they also got money for Kyle McAllister in recent years too.
McGinn sell on, sold McAllister, Morgan and would have got decent compensation for Jack Ross.

Shame we blew it all on Alan fucking Stubbs and his shitfest from the deepest darkest depths of the English pub leagues.
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Right we all know May is hopeless up on his own. So why almost every time we then change and go two up top we sub him off to facilitate this? 

He is meant to be our no 1 striker, yet more often than not runs about on his own for 60 mins being completely innefectual then is subbed off, for us to then go two up top when we inevitably are chasing the game.

We spent all this time and money in the summer let's start with two up and at least give him the best chance to prove he can still play

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Right we all know May is hopeless up on his own. So why almost every time we then change and go two up top we sub him off to facilitate this? 
He is meant to be our no 1 striker, yet more often than not runs about on his own for 60 mins being completely innefectual then is subbed off, for us to then go two up top when we inevitably are chasing the game.
We spent all this time and money in the summer let's start with two up and at least give him the best chance to prove he can still play


How many minutes this season have May and Hendry had together? I feel like they’d be our most effective pairing but they’ve barely had any time on the park together.
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13 minutes ago, Jamie_Beatson said:

 


How many minutes this season have May and Hendry had together? I feel like they’d be our most effective pairing but they’ve barely had any time on the park together.

 

I think they started together once?

I agree give Henry and May time to form a partnership, let's face it if it takes time to gell (if at all) we are hardly any worse off. It's not as of we are even giving chances for May to miss 

Stevie May loan striker experiment is a failure. He should never of been bought if this was the intention, it's just baffling.

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Am I allowed to say I thought May was pretty good as a lone striker last night? Linked play well, held it up a few times and set up chances for Craig and O'Halloran. 

Feel like folk are over reacting to the game last night a bit. In terms of Home results this season Livingston have the same amount of points as Rangers, while Rangers and Aberdeen are the only teams to take points at their ground while also scoring. It was never going to be a great game, from our perspective, as Livingston simply dont let you play that way.

We lost 1-0, while having a clear penalty denied, and MOH missing almost an open goal. The performance, aside from a spell around their goal, wasn't even that bad. We didnt get a shot late on because Livingston camped their entire team around the box for the last 10 minutes and we've nobody who could win a header against their defenders.

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9 hours ago, Jamie_Beatson said:

 


How many minutes this season have May and Hendry had together? I feel like they’d be our most effective pairing but they’ve barely had any time on the park together.

 

30 mins v St Mirren. 45 minutes against Hibernian. 15 minutes against County.

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2 minutes ago, PauloPerth said:

No

*shrugs*

First half he sets up O'Halloran for probably the best chance either side had in that half, and generally linked up well multiple times to keep possession. Second half the midfield completely vanished and didnt get near him, as we, once again, didnt start the second half at the same time Livingston went up a gear.

Finding it a bit boring now that everyone seems to jump on him, and the set up, every single time we fail to win a match, regardless of how the game has actually played out.

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He did not bad when the ball was played to him on the ground several times in the first half. 
And the service to him was poor, as it seems to be generally when we go one up front.

But he did very little in terms of challenging for headers, stretching the defence, winning possession from poor balls upto him, winning throw ins to get us up the park. All things you look to from a lone striker.

How come when Kane or Hendry are on the park every defensive clearance is challenged, every header contested? Even if we don’t win them we stop the defender getting an easy time and force throw ins or mistakes. May has perfected the art of arriving 2 seconds late so he doesn’t need to challenge. It’s not an exciting part of the game but it’s important at the level we play at unfortunately, where if you’re only going to be effective from quality passes to your feet your impact is going to be very limited.

May is an intelligent player who can finish. But he’s not always the answer and has limitations to his game. As most of our squad do.

Kane has limitations as well, but is far better suited to the role. Or Hendry.  Theres a bit of a blinkered love in for May for what he did 5 years ago and a dislike for Kane because his finishing has been poor.  They are suited to different roles and the one last night suited Kane better.

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12 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

Heres their losses per year, from their accounts...

2018 - Loss of £232k

2017 - Loss of £1.4m

2016 - Loss of £849k

2015 - Loss of £1.6m

2014 - Loss of £380k

£4.46m worth of losses in that period, not including the results for 2019, and they're spending £200k this window (so far).

Try and figure out why St Johnstone aren't copying Ross County.

The Ross County Way.

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1 minute ago, PauloPerth said:

 

How come when Kane or Hendry are on the park every defensive clearance is challenged, every header contested?

They aren't, this is just a complete myth folk are peddling these days. They all pick and choose when to close down and when to drop, Kane and May do anyway, but people seem so stuck in this view about May they see what they need to see to confirm it.

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1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said:

*shrugs*

First half he sets up O'Halloran for probably the best chance either side had in that half, and generally linked up well multiple times to keep possession. Second half the midfield completely vanished and didnt get near him, as we, once again, didnt start the second half at the same time Livingston went up a gear.

Finding it a bit boring now that everyone seems to jump on him, and the set up, every single time we fail to win a match, regardless of how the game has actually played out.

Why is no one saying O'Halloran is shit? Missing sitters regularly. Imagine May or Kane missed those chances  dogs abuse.

performances this season as a whole from him have been very average although recently he's not played very much but prior performances doesn't exactly justify him game time either. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr Positive, sometimes. said:

Why is no one saying O'Halloran is shit? Missing sitters regularly. Imagine May or Kane missed those chances  dogs abuse.

performances this season as a whole from him have been very average although recently he's not played very much but prior performances doesn't exactly justify him game time either. 

Who else is there with his threat? His pace causes issues even if hes not playing well.

Just now, Dons_1988 said:

Stop being dicks and just give us Kennedy, eh?

Nut.

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