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Is Drey Wrights preference central? Can't help but feel him running directly at CBs from deep would put the fucking fear right up them.

Clark

Ralston - Kerr - Gordon - Tanser

Davidson - Holt

O'Halloran - Wright - Kennedy

May

Reserves: Parish, Duffy, Anderson, Vihmann, Craig, McCann, Callachan, Wotherspoon, Swanson, Kane, Hendry

Could be worth giving a go for a while. If Wright has experience in that role, then his work rate, and Holts willingness to work, could transform whats been a very one paced one midfield so far this season. Allows MOH to stay on his best side, and hopefully Wright would be able to rotate with Kennedy to give right backs another worry when he starts cutting in. May should be fine to miss out on the majority of build up play.

Been watching clips of Holt at Rangers and Fleetwood, and honestly hes perfect for what I was hoping for. Seems comfortable on the ball in tight spaces, has the pace to burst past opposing midfielders and theres numerous clips of him doing wee one touch, no look, passes "round the corner" which sends wingers away. I'm not sure how well he protects the defence though, seems more than wiling to harry and press midfielders which might be enough.

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56 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Is Drey Wrights preference central? Can't help but feel him running directly at CBs from deep would put the fucking fear right up them.

Clark

Ralston - Kerr - Gordon - Tanser

Davidson - Holt

O'Halloran - Wright - Kennedy

May

Reserves: Parish, Duffy, Anderson, Vihmann, Craig, McCann, Callachan, Wotherspoon, Swanson, Kane, Hendry

Could be worth giving a go for a while. If Wright has experience in that role, then his work rate, and Holts willingness to work, could transform whats been a very one paced one midfield so far this season. Allows MOH to stay on his best side, and hopefully Wright would be able to rotate with Kennedy to give right backs another worry when he starts cutting in. May should be fine to miss out on the majority of build up play.

Been watching clips of Holt at Rangers and Fleetwood, and honestly hes perfect for what I was hoping for. Seems comfortable on the ball in tight spaces, has the pace to burst past opposing midfielders and theres numerous clips of him doing wee one touch, no look, passes "round the corner" which sends wingers away. I'm not sure how well he protects the defence though, seems more than wiling to harry and press midfielders which might be enough.

Interesting. 

We've got lots and lots of options for as long as the formation starts with a '4'. and that 4 picks itself. Still need to balance the team up with defensive depth. 

This is not a shitfesting team of OAPs that most folk would sterotype St Johnstone as. 

Now, how about putting McCann in next to Holt instead of Murray to learn his craft? Bring the age down to probably the youngest in the league.

 

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2 hours ago, tree house tam said:

Bit easier for a young guy with no ties to just up and leave, guys with families and houses etc will find it a bit harder.

 

But aye, Tommy's right, f**k off McMillan et al.

Feel sorry for him Tam. Gave up job, unsettled family life etc probably on a bunch of promises.  He scored 2 goals in about 8 starts last season, whereas Chris Kane scored 3 in probably 20 starts, yet still gets plenty opportunities.  Not grumbling at giving Kane plenty chances, just how it's been unevenly applied.

I really can't see how everyone's so definite about his ability, when we've not seen a lot of him. Think his confidence was probably completely eroded by the time he went to Accies on loan. He scored 2 in 2 last season then was dropped and hardly seen again.

Unless McMillans not giving a f**k, out pissing it up or fannying about in training, then I don't think Tommy's got any right to try to portray him as a villain for sticking with his contract rather than take a big wage cut to leave.  Different if he was on millions and could get slightly less millions somewhere else.  He's probably on a wage not much different from a lot of the posters on here.

I know everyone's going to come way with its a tough business etc etc, .. fair enough, it's just how I see it.

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6 hours ago, PauloPerth said:

Feel sorry for him Tam. Gave up job, unsettled family life etc probably on a bunch of promises.  He scored 2 goals in about 8 starts last season, whereas Chris Kane scored 3 in probably 20 starts, yet still gets plenty opportunities.  Not grumbling at giving Kane plenty chances, just how it's been unevenly applied.

I really can't see how everyone's so definite about his ability, when we've not seen a lot of him. Think his confidence was probably completely eroded by the time he went to Accies on loan. He scored 2 in 2 last season then was dropped and hardly seen again.

Unless McMillans not giving a f**k, out pissing it up or fannying about in training, then I don't think Tommy's got any right to try to portray him as a villain for sticking with his contract rather than take a big wage cut to leave.  Different if he was on millions and could get slightly less millions somewhere else.  He's probably on a wage not much different from a lot of the posters on here.

I know everyone's going to come way with its a tough business etc etc, .. fair enough, it's just how I see it.

I know what you're saying Paulo, it must be heartbreaking to move your life to another country on a dream then realise you're at a level below Chris fucking Kane, absolutely heartbreaking. 

I didn't mind David in the early days, when he scored away at Hamilton, playing ok in the process, I thought he'd do well. He has looked lost lately though, he's also well within his rights to see out the contract. Tommy obviously sees no future for him at Saints so he either proves him wrong or fucks off, the balls in his court.

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57 minutes ago, tree house tam said:

I know what you're saying Paulo, it must be heartbreaking to move your life to another country on a dream then realise you're at a level below Chris fucking Kane, absolutely heartbreaking

I didn't mind David in the early days, when he scored away at Hamilton, playing ok in the process, I thought he'd do well. He has looked lost lately though, he's also well within his rights to see out the contract. Tommy obviously sees no future for him at Saints so he either proves him wrong or fucks off, the balls in his court.

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Do you think he has/ still has an opportunity to prove him wrong though?  Is he still training with the first team squad?  Tommy sounds a bit like once he's made his mind up on you that's it, tatties. Brad Mackay, Stefan Scougall etc.  

In his defence though, there's not many players have been released who've gone onto better things, can't think of many that the manager/ coaching staff were wrong about so far.

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8 hours ago, Valentino Bolognese said:

Interesting. 

We've got lots and lots of options for as long as the formation starts with a '4'. and that 4 picks itself. Still need to balance the team up with defensive depth. 

This is not a shitfesting team of OAPs that most folk would sterotype St Johnstone as. 

Now, how about putting McCann in next to Holt instead of Murray to learn his craft? Bring the age down to probably the youngest in the league.

 

That is an option, I would be strange having a team without either Davidson Craig and Wotherspoon in it. If it was me I would develop McCann slower.  By that I mean I would give 30 -20 mins as a sub and increase that as develops. And if he matures as we expect, then start him alongside Holt. My concern in a 4:2:3:1 is McCann's defensive qualities. He would need to play left side where he has Tanser behind him. I would be a bit anxious with Ralston , McCann and Gordon defending the right side of the park.

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1 hour ago, PauloPerth said:

😀

Do you think he has/ still has an opportunity to prove him wrong though?  Is he still training with the first team squad?  Tommy sounds a bit like once he's made his mind up on you that's it, tatties. Brad Mackay, Stefan Scougall etc. 

I dunno, we all thought Millar was being frozen out then a few injuries later and he was back in. As long as Saints pay his wages he has a chance imo. Tommy is pretty fair tbh.

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34 minutes ago, Templar said:

That is an option, I would be strange having a team without either Davidson Craig and Wotherspoon in it. If it was me I would develop McCann slower.  By that I mean I would give 30 -20 mins as a sub and increase that as develops. And if he matures as we expect, then start him alongside Holt. My concern in a 4:2:3:1 is McCann's defensive qualities. He would need to play left side where he has Tanser behind him. I would be a bit anxious with Ralston , McCann and Gordon defending the right side of the park.

Gordon's the left sided CB.

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51 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Gordon's the left sided CB.

Sorry my error. I would be a bit anxious with Ralston , McCann and Kerr defending the right side of the park.

I thought Kerr and Gordon switched about during the game depending on opposition runs and man marking. But I may be wrong. I watch the games on Saints TV and you do not see the whole field of play. I will watch more carefully in future.

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3 minutes ago, Templar said:

Sorry my error. I would be a bit anxious with Ralston , McCann and Kerr defending the right side of the park.

I thought Kerr and Gordon switched about during the game depending on opposition runs and man marking. But I may be wrong. I watch the games on Saints TV and you do not see the whole field of play. I will watch more carefully in future.

What you really mean is Liam has to cover when Kerr fucks up or is wandering. 

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19 minutes ago, Templar said:

Sorry my error. I would be a bit anxious with Ralston , McCann and Kerr defending the right side of the park.

I thought Kerr and Gordon switched about during the game depending on opposition runs and man marking. But I may be wrong. I watch the games on Saints TV and you do not see the whole field of play. I will watch more carefully in future.

With Drey Wright able to track back, that's not so bad TBH (depending on what we've got with Ralston). 

Edit - just realised you had Wright in the middle. I'd have him on the right, Matty in the middle and MOH on the left. Others might have MOH middle but I personally think he's better wide. 

Counter arguments that he was brought in to play in the middle and that Kennedy is better as a winger are perfectly valid. It will be fun finding out what works best. 

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27 minutes ago, Dick Van Dyke said:

Any names of possible left backs coming in? Hopefully someone with some experience 

No names but Radford did list a handful of mostly Scottish available players. Few decent players in the list too. 

Genuinely think its going to be the likes of Callum Booth or Tam Scobbie though. 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/former-dundee-united-star-callum-19027105

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