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Pleased to get Holt in. Disappointed to lose Kyle McLean. A couple of years developing a young player on the fringe of the first team and for it just to end suddenly before he's really had a crack is a shame.

It has to be at Mcleans request surely. If the club made the decision then we would have to pay off the remainder of his contract anyway i would think, so wouldn't be worth it?

Three loan signings in, which is not the best scenario, but at least we've got a centre midfielder in which is well needed.

I haven't seen a lot of Ralston, but am more positive about him than many others appear to be after speaking to a Celtic supporter I know. I think Duffy has potential, he's just very raw and lacking in first team games, but Ralston must be more confident as he's played plenty reserve matches, been around the first team with champions league appearances, so should be more ready to be thrown straight in. We'll see..

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5 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

RG: Think its time for bed, no more signings tonight, and I'm shattered. One quick sweep of the open tabs just incase...

Sees mention theres one more to come tonight

*sighs* Guess its no sleep for me tonight then...

Sees Craig Curran has left Dundee...

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1 minute ago, steviemay17 said:

why are you like this?!?!

Expect the worst, and you'll never be disappointed :lol:

I'm aff, don't see any more signings tonight despite what folk are saying tbh. Glad this mess of a window is over and we've come out it, on paper, in decent shape. 

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Woke up this morning to see we have Jason Holt, delighted with that piece of news. As others have said hopefully we will pick up a left back for cover this week.

The transfer window has been slow but we covered Centre Back, Right back, Centre Midfield and Striker. The centre Back looks a dud and our starting line up there will be Kerr and Gordon. Attacking wise it is very exciting May, Kennedy, O'Halloran, Wright and Swanson. The challenge Tommy has is to find a formation that suits all their attacking qualities.

I still fear our biggest problem is a very young and inexperienced Central defence and our defending as a team. If we cannot keep clean sheets, we are not going to get very many wins and that means not very many points which in turn could spell relegation battle.

Signing Vihmann as a starting Centre Back could be a big problem should we get an injury or suspension at Centre Back because in my opinion he is not good enough. 

Only time will tell and I do hope the clean sheets appear and the our goals for column begins to tick over each game.

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I'm glad we got shot of that dud Grant after he didn't score in his first few games, he was never going to cut it. And I'm so relieved the manager ditched that boy Swanson after his debut at Palmerston. 

When did we stop giving players a chance? Vihmann will be playing against Belarus and Netherlands this week, I don't believe Estonia are that short of players.

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12 minutes ago, Radford said:

When did we stop giving players a chance? Vihmann will be playing against Belarus and Netherlands this week, I don't believe Estonia are that short of players.

By your theory, he should be playing before Kerr and Gordon as he is a top Estonian centre back Internationalist. Kerr and Gordon are nowhere near being a top Scottish centre back internationalists. I do not see much difference in the sides. 

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2 minutes ago, Templar said:

By your theory, he should be playing before Kerr and Gordon as he is a top Estonian centre back Internationalist.

No but equally I see little point in branding him a dud and not good enough after his first three games in a new environment with new players. 

You might well be right about him but at least give the guy a proper chance. If the manager starts playing Duffy or Anderson ahead of him, then we'll know there is maybe a problem. 

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1 minute ago, Radford said:

No but equally I see little point in branding him a dud and not good enough after his first three games in a new environment with new players. 

You might well be right about him but at least give the guy a proper chance. If the manager starts playing Duffy or Anderson ahead of him, then we'll know there is maybe a problem. 

OK I'll back off, just my opinion on what I have seen so far (i'm not he only one). Time will tell,. I hope you are right, we do need a 3rd good central defender

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United fans I've spoken to seem to be very positive about Ralston which is encouraging and I'm glad we've attempted to strengthen in the middle of the park with Holt. With the emergence of McCann gives us 4 different options, 5 if you include Callachan.

I worry about the back but hopefully they'll gel as the season progresses. Wright's usually managed to sort us on that side of things. The five games sandwiched between the rangers games next week and the start of November will let us know where we are.

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I guess we're just waiting on the left back and we'll have our completed squad. I still have reservations, particularly around the the defence, but the manager can't complain too about not being backed. I think the biggest issue that has slowed recruitment is having too much deadwood on good contracts who we have been unable to shift and who will indeed still be here until January, unless we here more about all of that later.

Our strongest 11 isn't particularly easy to identify either. Our main striker works best with a partner up top but our midfield options probably suit playing in a 3. That maybe points to a 3-5-2, but most of our best players are wingers and right now I don't know if we have 3 centre back options that I'd trust to play together week in week out.

I'd be tempted to try

Clark

Ralston Kerr Gordon Tanser

Wright Davidson Holt MOH

Kennedy May

I don't think MOH is a particularly effective link up player whereas I quite liked the partnership Kennedy and Watt forged together upfront in that spell they played together. This also gives May a partner and squeezes most of our strongest players into positions they are at least familiar with.

Edit: worth noting the players who we have in reserve (ie not in the above team) in each position

Goalkeepers - Elliot Parish, Max Johnstone

Defence - Wallace Duffy, Steven Anderson, Madis Vihmann, new left back

Midfield - Liam Craig, Ross Callachan, Ali McCann

Wingers - David Wotherspoon, Danny Swanson

Strikers - David McMillan, Chris Kane, Callum Hendry

Not bad at all. I do worry about injuries in the defence though - the drop in quality is quite severe if Vihmann doesn't find form and the new left back isn't up to much.

Edited by Kyle
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