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1 hour ago, The Marly said:
3 hours ago, tree house tam said:
Aye, let's say 25 or 26 quid, I'm in. Worth every penny to not hear Ghostie bellow his shite opinions at the players.
 
Only problem is that where there's a stream there's the equivalent dodgy free stream. Big risk for a club our size to take.

Do you sit near Ghostie when you're at McDiarmid? I really couldn't be arsed with that.

I've tried a different stand and can still hear the twat.

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I sat in front of him for half a season, was very hungover one day anc we were losing to Celtic. Heard him scream “BAAAAAAAACCCCCKKKKKK POOOOOSSSSSSSSSST”.

Got up, walked out the ground, spewed and went home.

The next game I’d moved up the other end of the scoreboard.

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29 minutes ago, mizfit said:

I sat in front of him for half a season, was very hungover one day anc we were losing to Celtic. Heard him scream “BAAAAAAAACCCCCKKKKKK POOOOOSSSSSSSSSST”.

Got up, walked out the ground, spewed and went home.

The next game I’d moved up the other end of the scoreboard.

You could still hear him the next week from the other end though 😂

Reading your post I could hear it in my head as if he was shouting it 😂😂

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3 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

This is just a different version of the "make admission £10 and you'd sell out ths stadium!" argument. Youd lose more than you earn so it's not worth it.

Is there any evidence for this? That's a genuine question, not an attempt at being passive-aggressive. I'd be interested to see a club's PPV figures, including geographical spread.

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Further cup final tops have been made available due to high demand. I prefer it to the actual home shirt, but either way it’s another way the club are making a wee bit of cash out of the cup run. We should just get to cup finals every year imo, makes sense financially.

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8 minutes ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said:

Further cup final tops have been made available due to high demand. I prefer it to the actual home shirt, but either way it’s another way the club are making a wee bit of cash out of the cup run. We should just get to cup finals every year imo, makes sense financially.

Yes seems so obvious doesn't it?  You'd think the club would have cottoned onto it by now.  

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Anyone have any idea what the PPV figures are for any given game? I don’t imagine there’s that many folk on watching but might be wrong. I’ve certainly watched more games than ever would in a normal season.

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2 hours ago, derek_holmes said:

Is there any evidence for this? That's a genuine question, not an attempt at being passive-aggressive. I'd be interested to see a club's PPV figures, including geographical spread.

ICT lost money, despite increasing their crowd, on a "pay what you want" game, so I suspect PPV would go the same way.

I don't think we have enough extra UK based fans to make it worthwhile, considering it would impact the Sky deal.

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1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said:

ICT lost money, despite increasing their crowd, on a "pay what you want" game, so I suspect PPV would go the same way.

I don't think we have enough extra UK based fans to make it worthwhile, considering it would impact the Sky deal.

Not sure it’s a fair comparison,I know a guy who paid 20 pence that day 

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22 hours ago, PauloPerth said:

Yes seems so obvious doesn't it?  You'd think the club would have cottoned onto it by now.  

We’ve still not tried the ‘large gazebo outside McDiarmid with mulled wine’ idea either. 

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27 minutes ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said:

We’ve still not tried the ‘large gazebo outside McDiarmid with mulled wine’ idea either. 

That can be phase 2.  I'll be content with the win hunners o cups approach.

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23 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

ICT lost money, despite increasing their crowd, on a "pay what you want" game, so I suspect PPV would go the same way.

I don't think we have enough extra UK based fans to make it worthwhile, considering it would impact the Sky deal.

I don't understand why clubs offer these incentives as a one-off,  and analyse their effect on that basis.

Walk-up-to-the-gate football has declined massively in this country. People have largely switched to season tickets. You'd need a massive game, rather than a price reduction, to encourage fans along for a one-off now.

So the reason to lower prices would be to encourage fans to get into a habit, so the income from one game is almost irrelevant. It's something that would need to be done regularly to see any positive effect. Pricing at football is so high now it's very difficult to get into a habit unless it's subsidised for a wee while.

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FWIW here's our squad breakdown, in the league, to try and find who our most dangerous players have been.

xG used to see who's getting shots in dangerous areas, xA to see who's creating shots in dangerous areas. Used total instead of p90 as I think its a fairer way to look at it, maybe wrong. % is the amount they individually contribute to the who squads total. If a players missing from the list, it means they scored 0 in both so I erased them them ease. Penalties removed. They're not ordered in any way, simply how they came out from WyScout...

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...from memory a lot of chances Conway sets up are from corners/set plays. May was top when you include penalties, then plummets when you remove them.

I don't think McCann has been particularly adventurous this season, so to see him have a similar chance of goals as May is a bit of a worry.

Wotherspoon, though...

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The problem with xG is Chris Kane could be through one-on-one, somehow take it round the keeper and be facing an empty net, and I still don't think I would expect him to score

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2 minutes ago, deej said:

The problem with xG is Chris Kane could be through one-on-one, somehow take it round the keeper and be facing an empty net, and I still don't think I would expect him to score

I wish it was called "chance quality" instead, tbh, expected goals gives the wrong impression I think.

Should probably add in how many actual goals they scored, and mins played, next time for more context.

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@RandomGuy is this league only? 

If it is and I'm reading it correctly, we 'should' have scored 43/44 goals this season compared to the 27 we have scored. It would intereting to see a table that confirms we are amongst, if not the, most wasteful. Another thought is that we're probably getting more clinical, so you'd hope the figures would reflect that we're wasting fewer chances over time. 

Why though would p90 not be a fairer way of looking at, as it's players that you're judging?

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12 minutes ago, Valentino Bolognese said:

@RandomGuy is this league only? 

If it is and I'm reading it correctly, we 'should' have scored 43/44 goals this season compared to the 27 we have scored. It would intereting to see a table that confirms we are amongst, if not the, most wasteful. Another thought is that we're probably getting more clinical, so you'd hope the figures would reflect that we're wasting fewer chances over time. 

Why though would p90 not be a fairer way of looking at, as it's players that you're judging?

Yeah sorry, shouldve made it clear.

The 43.68 is both xG and xA combined, so isn't the amount we shouldve scored, you'd have to total the xG up to get that, as you can be counting chances twice using both, if that makes sense? Also doesn't include Hendry or McNamara. ModernFitba twitter had our seasonal xG up a few ago I'm sure.

Was looking more at who our most dangerous players have been this season, and wanted to include players who hadn't played as much, so felt fairer to those who have played a lot of minutes. Sometimes p90 figures punish folk like Wotherspoon who play almost every minute.

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2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Yeah sorry, shouldve made it clear.

The 43.68 is both xG and xA combined, so isn't the amount we shouldve scored, you'd have to total the xG up to get that, as you can be counting chances twice using both, if that makes sense? Also doesn't include Hendry or McNamara. ModernFitba twitter had our seasonal xG up a few ago I'm sure.

Was looking more at who our most dangerous players have been this season, and wanted to include players who hadn't played as much, so felt fairer to those who have played a lot of minutes. Sometimes p90 figures punish folk like Wotherspoon who play almost every minute.

Of course, should have seen it was xA and xG. Still think it would be interesting to know xG for the team for the season vs actual goals scored, particularly in comparison to other teams. 

 

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20 minutes ago, Valentino Bolognese said:

Of course, should have seen it was xA and xG. Still think it would be interesting to know xG for the team for the season vs actual goals scored, particularly in comparison to other teams. 

 

 

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