The Saintee Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: To get rid of him requires someone to want him. We can pay him off and release him and that's what needs to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marly Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Radford said: I'm not sure I can remember a player that has carried as much good will as Bair. Even on Saturday, he got a great reception off the bench,. Then with his first touch kicked the ball about 30 yards in front of him as he tried to dribble with it. And Steven MacLean doing himself no favours trying to tell us that Davidson did a fantastic job. This is one of reasons I'm probably sided on a new broom so we can properly rid ourselves of the lingering stench of Davidson. I'm prepared to give Macca till the end of the season and see how we are doing then, how he changes things and importantly, how he comes across in interviews. I'd also prefer to see which new brooms are available. But like you, part of me thinks a completely new start might be best. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Radford said: This is one of reasons I'm probably sided on a new broom so we can properly rid ourselves of the lingering stench of Davidson. It's going to take a lot more than getting rid of Macca. Big clear out and HOPEFULLY* new owners in place for next season. * that may not be as straightforward as one thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 The squad is still in a bit of a shambles up until the end of the 2024 season. We've got some good players but we've got some players who really aren't up to it signed until 2024, and a selection of older players who are just about ok at the moment but who could fall off a cliff before their contracts expire. I'd agree that the budget will probably reduce - unless we get Hollywood owners or something. It's why I'd be inclined to let almost all the out of contract players go. Harsh on some but we do need to improve the quality of the squad and that would help open up the budget a bit for any new manager. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) The squad is too big and there are certainly gaps but, as no fan of Davidson, some of the comments across various platforms on the complete recruitment picture are harsh. Would I trust him not to end up with a bloated and unbalanced squad, not at all, but would I expect there to be decent players in areas, I think you have to be fair and say yes. When folk talk about only a handful of good signings, they are doing a disservice not just to Davidson but also guys that have done a decent job for us. They maybe weren't strategically great signings but to rubbish 80% to 90% of the guys that have played for us over the past three seasons is poor IMO. Look, a 50% strike-rate still isn't great but would be a fairer reflection of things. As I say, the overall squad building job was poor and he has lumbered us with some shite on long deals but if you simply take footballers at face value based on ability, there were a number of decent ones. God. What a situation. Having to defend Callum Davidson. Edited May 11, 2023 by Radford 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Does anyone have a list of all Davidsons signings at hand? I'd like to see them in black and white before I deride Radford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Recruitment is hard for clubs like Saints. There's going to be hits and misses along the way. The fee spending and length of contracts just makes the recent misses much poorer business. It's also partly why Saints shouldn't be so hasty to just allow everyone currently out of contract to leave. It won't be "easy" to find serious upgrades on those players. The likes of Spoony, Kane and even Hallberg. Especially as we'll be going into the market later than some clubs due to the league position, no manager for next season and potentially due to pending new owners no transfer business being able to be done. Could be left with us looking at 3rd, 4th of 5th options down the list due to the better options sorting deals elsewhere by the time we're ready. there's a few in contract and out of contract that are obvious candidates to leave though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankChickens1 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Bit of a broken record but the problem isn't just the signings, it's the ridiculous terms they were signed on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 This Summer was a good window and, ignoring the likes of Sandford, its hard to claim any "failed". The failure was on the managers part for building an unbalanced squad and not using it correctly. Theres numerous players who are classed as failures mostly because he set them up to fail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 36 minutes ago, tree house tam said: Does anyone have a list of all Davidsons signings at hand? I'd like to see them in black and white before I deride Radford. Pinched from Ludo on the Dundee manager thread Danny McNamara (Loan) Isaac Olaofe (Loan) Craig Conway Guy Melamed Craig Bryson James Brown (Loan) Glenn Middleton (Loan) Zdenek Zlamal (Loan) Charlie Gilmour Hayden Muller (Loan) Reece Devine (Loan) Ali Crawford Lars Dendoncker (Loan) Cammy MacPherson Efe Ambrose Eetu Vertainen Viv Solomon-Otabor Jacob Butterfield Dan Cleary John Mahon (Undisclosed fee) Tony Gallacher Theo Bair Tom Sang (Loan) Jahmal Hector-Ingram Nadir Ciftci Andrew Considine Drey Wright Adam Montgomery Graham Carey Jamie Murphy Ryan McGowan William Sandford Remi Matthews (Loan) Alex Mitchell (Loan) Nicky Clark Connor McLennan (Loan) Zak Rudden (Loan) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) When you look through that list, broadly every player signed either side of last season is passable, based on performances. It goes deeper than how they’ve played though. Edited May 11, 2023 by PSJ.84 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Danny McNamara (Loan) - HIT Isaac Olaofe (Loan) - MISS Craig Conway - HIT Guy Melamed - HIT Craig Bryson - HIT season one, MISS season two James Brown (Loan) - HIT Glenn Middleton (Loan) - HIT season one, MISS season two Zdenek Zlamal (Loan) - average Charlie Gilmour - MISS Hayden Muller (Loan) - MISS Reece Devine (Loan) - MISS Ali Crawford - average but length of deal means MISS Melker Hallberg- HIT Lars Dendoncker (Loan) - MISS Cammy MacPherson - HIT Efe Ambrose - MISS Eetu Vertainen - MISS Viv Solomon-Otabor - MISS Jacob Butterfield - average Dan Cleary - average John Mahon (Undisclosed fee) - MISS Tony Gallacher - MISS Theo Bair - MISS Tom Sang (Loan) - MISS Jahmal Hector-Ingram - MISS Nadir Ciftci - MISS Andrew Considine - HIT Drey Wright - HIT Adam Montgomery - HIT Graham Carey - average Jamie Murphy - average Ryan McGowan - HIT William Sandford - MISS Remi Matthews (Loan) - HIT Alex Mitchell (Loan) - HIT Nicky Clark - HIT Connor McLennan (Loan) - average Zak Rudden (Loan) - average 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: Jacob Butterfield - average Average is extremely kind 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, PSJ.84 said: Average is extremely kind There’s a lot of kind ratings in there I’d say. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 41 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: Danny McNamara (Loan) - HIT Isaac Olaofe (Loan) - MISS Craig Conway - HIT Guy Melamed - HIT Craig Bryson - HIT season one, MISS season two James Brown (Loan) - HIT Glenn Middleton (Loan) - HIT season one, MISS season two Zdenek Zlamal (Loan) - average Charlie Gilmour - MISS Hayden Muller (Loan) - MISS Reece Devine (Loan) - MISS Ali Crawford - average but length of deal means MISS Melker Hallberg- HIT Lars Dendoncker (Loan) - MISS Cammy MacPherson - HIT Efe Ambrose - MISS Eetu Vertainen - MISS Viv Solomon-Otabor - MISS Jacob Butterfield - average Dan Cleary - average John Mahon (Undisclosed fee) - MISS Tony Gallacher - MISS Theo Bair - MISS Tom Sang (Loan) - MISS Jahmal Hector-Ingram - MISS Nadir Ciftci - MISS Andrew Considine - HIT Drey Wright - HIT Adam Montgomery - HIT Graham Carey - average Jamie Murphy - average Ryan McGowan - HIT William Sandford - MISS Remi Matthews (Loan) - HIT Alex Mitchell (Loan) - HIT Nicky Clark - HIT Connor McLennan (Loan) - average Zak Rudden (Loan) - average Clearly you are an extremely nice person. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Butterfield a good example of the issue. A good player, but he couldnt run and couldnt defend. Stuck into the team and told to be an energetic part of a midfield two. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Him coming on when we were 2-0 up in Inverness and it being 2-2 within 11 minutes pretty much summed up his time with us. You could see there was a player there at one point but I thought he was done at this sort of level, not helped by the way Davidson used him of course. Made 40 appearances for a Scunthorpe side relegated from the National League this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino Bolognese Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, PauloPerth said: Jahmal Hector-Ingram - MISS Harsh Paulo, very harsh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Hallberg isn't on that list. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibbydoo Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Costanza said: Hallberg isn't on that list. Think he is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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