Theyellowbox Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 09/10/2022 at 10:46, mizfit said: What do you reckon the damage is to the away sections today? Unfortunately not enough to get rid of the yellow and red seats in there. As for the fans on pitch. Saints could make a killing here. Allow home fans to pay £20 extra to be handed a tazer and allowed to 'restrain' pitch invaders from the away end! would be no shortage of takers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double deluxe Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Lost 2-0 to Killie in a bounce game yesterday Gallacher, Wotherspoon, Phillips and Mahon all got game time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Both Callum and Liam at Queens Park v Arbroath tonight, for those that care. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 hours ago, PSJ.84 said: Both Callum and Liam at Queens Park v Arbroath tonight, for those that care. Who could they be watching? Looked up those in their squad who are likely to be up for a pre in Jan. There's a few in the midfield available? Bannon? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 6 hours ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: Who could they be watching? Looked up those in their squad who are likely to be up for a pre in Jan. There's a few in the midfield available? Bannon? Left when Patrick Jarrett was taken off, albeit that was with about 10 minutes left so could just be coincidence 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, PSJ.84 said: Left when Patrick Jarrett was taken off, albeit that was with about 10 minutes left so could just be coincidence He was in Stokes youth sides when Davidson was there, so that would tie in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: He was in Stokes youth sides when Davidson was there, so that would tie in. That did cross my mind. Signed a 2-year-deal with Queens Park in the summer… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Who was the oldest, most past it player on display? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 6 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: He was in Stokes youth sides when Davidson was there, so that would tie in. 20 year old, makes sense to be looking at. Don’t know much about him to either be excited or concerned though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) Theo Bair. Jesus Christ This team are in trouble again this season. Utterly lost in possession. Again, what's the game plan? Again we watch a team struggle in midfield because we're a man short in there. Edited October 15, 2022 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 I think chat of amazing transformations can get in the bin. 10 points from the first 11 games is really poor and not a lot has changed from last season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 That 3-0 over St Mirren really flattered to deceive. A Callum Davidson side is far more likely to lose than anything else. He's not a manager. Who is coaching Bair? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Yes Bair has had his chances and is out of his depth. The Livi forwards showed him how to make life difficult for opposing defenders whilst he stood and watched livi’s centre backs head it clear or would invariably arrive just after the ball had been cleared far too many times. Even on the rare occasions he had the ball at his feet he gave it away. Brown is another, especially playing him on the left when he can’t kick a ball with his left foot. Bottom three is County, us and killie. Our inability to grind out draws (or wins) when we’re not playing well either improves or we’re in huge danger of the automatic relegation place this time. That’s two diddy teams in the past 3 matches that have bullied us and had fairly comfortable wins against us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) One of the biggest issues is the last two away games the opposition have seemed MUCH more motivated and up for it than Saints. Also after going a goal down in both we've regressed massively. Weak mentality. So much wrong with how we go about things. Out numbered in midfield resulted in Livi being first to nearly everything but we continued to keep things that way. We made basically zero attempts to play through midfield. Why bother playing it short from the goal keeper if you're just going to lump it down the line anyway? At a loss as to what the game plan actually is. Liam Gordon's distribution is absolutely horrific and teams just stand off and allow him or the other 2 members of the back 3 have the ball as they know they're almost guaranteed to give it away easily. Absolutely zero leadership throughout the team as well. Often complete silence. Theo Bair a waste of space. I almost feel sorry for him, he just doesn't have a clue what to do. The coaching and instruction clearly isnt helping and he looks more and more confused the more he plays. Edited October 15, 2022 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 We’ve become a worse team since Liam Gordon came back into the team. We need to go back to Mitchell in the middle, McGowan on the right and right now, probably Max in midfield with Hallberg. I don’t know what’s going on with Gordon, but his passing is getting worse and frankly having a central centreback who can’t pass the ball is fundamentally leaving us at a huge disadvantage. Captain or not, he needs dropped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Widge said: We’ve become a worse team since Liam Gordon came back into the team. We need to go back to Mitchell in the middle, McGowan on the right and right now, probably Max in midfield with Hallberg. I don’t know what’s going on with Gordon, but his passing is getting worse and frankly having a central centreback who can’t pass the ball is fundamentally leaving us at a huge disadvantage. Captain or not, he needs dropped. I think he needs the captaincy removed and just focus on himself. Cannot for the life of me think who should take the captaincy going forward though. May probably? 2 big games coming up, we need 4 points from them. Edit: 5 games until the World Cup, a run that includes Motherwell, Kilmarnock & Rangers at home. We simply cannot repeat what we did last winter. Edited October 15, 2022 by mizfit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 48 minutes ago, Widge said: We’ve become a worse team since Liam Gordon came back into the team. We need to go back to Mitchell in the middle, McGowan on the right and right now, probably Max in midfield with Hallberg. McGowan needs to play CM, in this shape, so we have someone who can compete physically and win the ball. McGowan can't play CM, in this shape, because the wide CBs aren't moving forward and McGowan is Muzz mk2 on the ball, so teams just have to shut down our wing backs and we're forced long. I genuinely have no clue how we set up best with the fit players we have. Our only right back options are Brown or McGowan, both are so defensive it'll end up much like our back 3 is at the moment anyway. We have no deep midfielder who can pass the ball effectively, so we'll struggle to build through the middle. I guess we'll have to wait and see with Phillips but I don't think its his game, or we hope MacPherson has (somehow) learned that hes a limited player who is likely to only ever be effective at this level long term if he just kept things simple (or that the bag of bones of Murray Davidson can scrape together another 25 games without falling apart). Yet have 6 players who look to be at their best playing as an advanced CM with little defensive responsibility (Wotherspoon/Crawford/Murphy/Carey/Max/Hallberg). We have one player who can play up front alone, but nobody has a clue what his injury is and when he returns. But this isn't a new issue for us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) Just seen the goal back. Utterly shite from Considine. It's hit right at him and he shits himself partly turns his back on it and it brushes off him into the net! The whole lead up to it is far to easy as well. Edited October 15, 2022 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: One of the biggest issues is the last two away games the opposition have seemed MUCH more motivated and up for it than Saints. Also after going a goal down in both we've regressed massively. Weak mentality. So much wrong with how we go about things. Out numbered in midfield resulted in Livi being first to nearly everything but we continued to keep things that way. We made basically zero attempts to play through midfield. Why bother playing it short from the goal keeper if you're just going to lump it down the line anyway? At a loss as to what the game plan actually is. Liam Gordon's distribution is absolutely horrific and teams just stand off and allow him or the other 2 members of the back 3 have the ball as they know they're almost guaranteed to give it away easily. Absolutely zero leadership throughout the team as well. Often complete silence. And the big thing is that none of these are new concerns. James Brown, for me, is fine if we need to use him. He shouldn’t be starting at wing back, certainly not on the left, if it can be helped. Livi overloaded our right hand side today - limiting Drey Wright from getting out. With Brown on the left and our midfield in the state it’s been for the last two years, he’s our only outball. Martindale has shown he can be tactically astute, today he didn’t really have to be. That’s a major worry. Trying not to be too reactive to today’s performance, but it’s all too similar to the guff we watched last season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On the bright side, Max looks a pler. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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