RandomGuy. Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Robert Thomson saying last he heard was October-ish for Booth/Gallacher, not sure if that's one or both. So aye, I retract my mewling as that's too long to be reliant on Brown out of position probably. Still not sure about Montgomery quality wise but I wrote off Fisher and by the end wanted him signed permanently. Half an inkling he'd be better further forward so interesting to see if that happens with a change of shape at any point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rcfc fan Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Don’t quite understand some anger over the Carey signing , he was great for us and was unreal at Plymouth , he’s only just left CSKA Sofia which is a decent level , can play left midfield , left back and the 10 role the only thing against him is age , I’d of taken him back at county in a heartbeat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Rcfc fan said: Don’t quite understand some anger over the Carey signing , he was great for us and was unreal at Plymouth , he’s only just left CSKA Sofia which is a decent level , can play left midfield , left back and the 10 role the only thing against him is age , I’d of taken him back at county in a heartbeat I think Carey has had taken the brunt of some frustration on how Saints are going about their recruitment in general at the moment rather than Saints fans having an issue with him specifically. Tommy Wright had previously reduced the squads age. In the time since Davidson has signed quite a few players 33 year old +. Short term stop gaps (often with injury problems) so recruitment often seems disorganised with little sign of long term planning and reactionary. For example a 35 year old Considine on a 2 year deal because Mccart was leaving. Personally was alright with the Carey signing, obviously I hope it works out amazingly and doesn't end in the Ambrose category. Edited June 28, 2022 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Commiserations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingermunkie Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 In case there was any doubt he wasn’t getting another chance. Confirmed via Instagram that Eetu isn’t part of the squad that’s travelled to Spain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: I think Carey has had taken the brunt of some frustration on how Saints are going about their recruitment in general at the moment rather than Saints fans having an issue with him specifically. Tommy Wright had previously reduced the squads age. In the time since Davidson has signed quite a few players 33 year old +. Short term stop gaps (often with injury problems) so recruitment often seems disorganised with little sign of long term planning and reactionary. For example a 35 year old Considine on a 2 year deal because Mccart was leaving. Personally was alright with the Carey signing, obviously I hope it works out amazingly and doesn't end in the Ambrose category. Totally agree with this. Carey, Montgomery and Considine in themselves are bad signings, but rather than 19 year olds at the start of their careers and 30+ year old guys at their end (both which come with uncertainty and potentally patchy form), we need some guys who can come in, make the team better and still have a good few years to develop at Saints. Rooney and McCart are perfect examples of the type we should be going for, early 20's good few games under their belt, but still with room for improvement. Hopefully these types of players are what is still to come. Not knocking the individual players signed, but none of them will be here in 2 years time. The longevity of first team players, Muzz, Liam, Wotherspoon, Anderson etc is what has allowed the team to grow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Center half Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said: Totally agree with this. Carey, Montgomery and Considine in themselves are bad signings, but rather than 19 year olds at the start of their careers and 30+ year old guys at their end (both which come with uncertainty and potentally patchy form), we need some guys who can come in, make the team better and still have a good few years to develop at Saints. Rooney and McCart are perfect examples of the type we should be going for, early 20's good few games under their belt, but still with room for improvement. Hopefully these types of players are what is still to come. Not knocking the individual players signed, but none of them will be here in 2 years time. The longevity of first team players, Muzz, Liam, Wotherspoon, Anderson etc is what has allowed the team to grow. The world changes though! Circumstances now make UK players a lot easier to sign than European players so I would expect a higher number of jobbers heading to the lower divisions in Engerland than previous so i doubt we will see many of our decent players hanging around for years! The shite though will still remain! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, gingermunkie said: In case there was any doubt he wasn’t getting another chance. Confirmed via Instagram that Eetu isn’t part of the squad that’s travelled to Spain. While I don't think for a minute he'll get a chance, did he not also break/fracture his shoulder/collarbone in their last game of the season. So wondering if he would have been fit to take part in any case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Any Saints fan saying that Montgomery is a good signing either wasn’t at our last away game last season in Perth or had their eyes closed for the first hour. He was shite overall for us in his spell at Pittodrie, but he plumbed new depths that night in the hour or so that he was on the pitch. What was Calum Davidson watching? Awful player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, kingjoey said: Any Saints fan saying that Montgomery is a good signing either wasn’t at our last away game last season in Perth or had their eyes closed for the first hour. He was shite overall for us in his spell at Pittodrie, but he plumbed new depths that night in the hour or so that he was on the pitch. What was Calum Davidson watching? Awful player. A recurring concern, he gave Crawford and McPherson two and a half year deals (and paid a decent fee for McPherson) after both underwhelmed in their 6 month loan spells. Montgomery will surely just be here to cover whilst Gallacher and Booth recover from their injuries. Seems sensible to me and I doubt we’d have been inundated with other sport term options for that position. Signing makes sense, whether he’s good enough or not remains to be seen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingermunkie Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said: While I don't think for a minute he'll get a chance, did he not also break/fracture his shoulder/collarbone in their last game of the season. So wondering if he would have been fit to take part in any case. Ah I’d totally missed that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJFCtheTeamForMe Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, gingermunkie said: Ah I’d totally missed that. I don't know for certain he's still injured though. Don't know for certain how bad the injury was but I do know he did go off injured in their last game. I've seen it noted elsewhere online that it was a fracture to his collarbone. IF that's that is actually true there's a good chance he's still out. Although, can't see him being involved regardless. Edited June 28, 2022 by SJFCtheTeamForMe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Van Dyke Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just shows the apathy around the club. A new signing announced nearly 2 hours ago and not 1 post about it on here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dick Van Dyke said: Just shows the apathy around the club. A new signing announced nearly 2 hours ago and not 1 post about it on here Because it was discussed 4hrs ago, tbf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Van Dyke Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Because it was discussed 4hrs ago, tbf. Yeah so was considine before he signed but there was still posting about it after it was confirmed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSJ.84 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 We’ll win at least one trophy this year. Perth’s soccer juggernaut is back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 Goalkeepers Elliot Parish - 2023 Ross Sinclair - 2024 Jack Wills - 2024 Craig Hepburn - 2023 Defenders/wing backs James Brown - 2023 Drey Wright - 2024 Daniel Cleary - 2024 Liam Gordon - 2024 John Mahon -2024 Andy Considine- 2024 Callum Booth - 2024 Tony Gallacher - 2024 Adam Montgomery - January 2023 - on lob from Celtic Midfielders/wingers David Wotherspoon - 2023 Max Kucheriavyi - 2024 Murray Davidson - 2023 Charlie Gilmour -2023 Cammy McPherson - 2024 Ali Crawford -2024 Melker Hallberg - 2023 Cammy Ballantyne - 2024 Alex Ferguson - 2023 Bailey Pert - 2023 Michael O’Halloran- 2023 Attackers Stevie May - 2023 Chris Kane - 2023 Eetu Vertainen - 2023 Theo Bair - 2024 Offered New Deals Zander Clark Unknown Liam Palmer Spencer Moreland Taylor Steven Released/left the club Shaun Rooney (Fleetwood Town) Efe Ambrose Jamie McCart (Rotherham United) Sam Denham (East Fife) Craig Bryson (Stenhousemuir) Liam Craig (stays on as a coach) Jacob Butterfield Jordan Northcott (Brechin City) Nadir Ciftci Jahmal Hector-Ingram Callum Hendry (Salford City) Loans Expired Glenn Middleton Tom Sang haven’t added Carey yet because it’s not official but you can assume he’ll be another one added in midfield seems that Eetu isn’t in Spain with the rest of the squad so you can safely assume he’s not in the plans and won’t get a chance. Still gaping holes in the goalkeeper’s position and up top and we need more dig in midfield too. We need to find goals too. Given all the quality we’ve lost, we still have a long way to go. We’ve signed 4 players now (assuming Carey does join) and the manager said 5 or 6. I think we need more than 1 or 2 more frankly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 First choice GK, RWB, holding midfielder, and CF if we play the same shape, if we change shape then switch RWB to RB and add a new RW. That's what I think we need to say we've improved from last season. We could get away with Wright being a regular if we add real quality up front maybe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Theyellowbox said: Totally agree with this. Carey, Montgomery and Considine in themselves are bad signings, but rather than 19 year olds at the start of their careers and 30+ year old guys at their end (both which come with uncertainty and potentally patchy form), we need some guys who can come in, make the team better and still have a good few years to develop at Saints. Rooney and McCart are perfect examples of the type we should be going for, early 20's good few games under their belt, but still with room for improvement. Hopefully these types of players are what is still to come. Not knocking the individual players signed, but none of them will be here in 2 years time. The longevity of first team players, Muzz, Liam, Wotherspoon, Anderson etc is what has allowed the team to grow. Robbie Deas would fit into that category - would be a very good signing but can’t see it happening. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said: Robbie Deas would fit into that category - would be a very good signing but can’t see it happening. I'd guess Considine signing killed that. No chance we run with 5 senior CBs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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