deej Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: I don't think he was suggesting what you're thinking hes suggesting. I think. I don't know what's happening anymore 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino Bolognese Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, deej said: Fantastic, we have negotiated the release of his contract (Not May or Vine funnily enough) and he signs for Dundee, thus we have single handedly saved Dundee a transfer fee. Nonsense (and barely readable). Any release would have been contingent on the signing with Saints. Otherwise they're just making him a free agent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviemay17 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I'm going to go balls out the bath and open myself to intense ridicule here... i think he still signs with us.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Center half Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Valentino Bolognese said: Disagree. In any other employment situation, if you agree a deal in principle and pass the medical and then at the last minute turn around and demand a higher salary, you can GTF. You negotiate before a contract's drawn up. In my book that would be acting in bad faith. No idea if that's what happened here but if it did then I would not blame Brown. Agent will be wanting his fee now, SB standard answer "Go and get Fucked no fee from us", agent "deal is dead then", Player has nothing to do with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviemay17 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Dons_1988 said: Oh wow you were serious? I have my naive moments... long story but once managed to be lured into sending an email around the entire office asking if anyone had received a call from a " mr Mabozza Ritchie" so it would'nt take an elaborate wind up to reel me in... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over the Road Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 He'll still sign for us, SB will pull out his "going the extra mile" card, Vine back in his box and a 2 year deal Top trolling from the club for the last couple of days 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino Bolognese Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Center half said: Agent will be wanting his fee now, SB standard answer "Go and get Fucked no fee from us", agent "deal is dead then", Player has nothing to do with it. Wasn't suggesting it was a player issue. Also though, that sort of stuff gets sorted pre-contract. Both agent and club would be aware of each other's standard terms such as the source of funding of fees. In fact that must be a very very common part of settling a contract like this. It won't be a '5 minutes to midnight' type issue. If you try to re-negotiate a contract after it's been drawn up, it's generally regarded as being in bad faith unless there's been a material change in circumstances (e.g. a medical throws something up). Who knows WFT happened. To me, the most likely is something we don't know about that would be 'new information'. Another club making an offer might be that but it would be shoddy on their part, not ours. Edited July 25, 2019 by Valentino Bolognese shitty punctuation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Odd if he's not going to come. Would any other team give him a better chance of resurrecting his career (all the goodwill here, a return to a successful environment). And would any club pay much more to attract him? If anyone is going to pay over the odds to get the 2019 Stevie May, it’s probably Saints. So if we've pulled out, I'm sure it's for a good reason. It’s telling, though, that we'd put everything on a player who's struggled to string together a decent 90 minutes over the last five years, rather than trust ourselves with anyone else. Our track record shows exactly why. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 There are still plenty of clubs for Stevie and Rowan to enter into dicussions with and fail to reach an agreement. I’m sure they’ll be given a warm welcome when they return to McDiarmid Park tomorrow with their tails between their legs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Sorry, is Rowan Vine impersonating as a football agent nowadays? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Wonder why Saints would back out at the last minute? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Sorry, is Rowan Vine impersonating as a football agent nowadays? Yup. At what point do you look at him and go “yup, that’s the man I want to negotiate on my behalf.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said: Wonder why Saints would back out at the last minute? He's fucked and won't last 3 games never mind 3 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Center half Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Valentino Bolognese said: Wasn't suggesting it was a player issue. Also though, that sort of stuff gets sorted pre-contract. Both agent and club would be aware of each other's standard terms such as the source of funding of fees. In fact that must be a very very common part of settling a contract like this. It won't be a '5 minutes to midnight' type issue. If you try to re-negotiate a contract after it's been drawn up, it's generally regarded as being in bad faith unless there's been a material change in circumstances (e.g. a medical throws something up). Who knows WFT happened to me, the most likely is something we don't know about that would be 'new information'. Another club making an offer might be that but it would be shoddy on their part, not ours. Agree however I do not know what type of agent Vine is to be honest (Registered, a go between agents? etc etc) SB has history of this in the past. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, tree house tam said: Someone throw this needy wee lap dog a bone ffs. Couldn't help yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 The Kojak guy on WAP is reliable seemingly. Rumour posted by Templar Saints over there that... May agreed deal to make him our highest ever earner All photos/videos done and paperwork filed to change squad numbers May to come in on Wednesday to sign deal, but contacts club to tell them hes had a higher offer and they've to match it Club refuse ...has been confirmed by him. Silly laddie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino Bolognese Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Center half said: Agree however I do not know what type of agent Vine is to be honest (Registered, a go between agents? etc etc) SB has history of this in the past. Steven Brown must have a lot of time on his hands if he spends his time repeatedly negotiating contracts then backing out at the last second over stuff that should be sorted before a contract gets drafted. Doesn't strike me as the type to fanny about playground playing games. Then again, I don't know any of the folk involved, just going by what I've read, seen and heard about him. And agree, what the f**k is Vine's role in this, and why would May get involved with him. Football is weird. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Stevie May is cancelled. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino Bolognese Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: The Kojak guy on WAP is reliable seemingly. Rumour posted by Templar Saints over there that... May agreed deal to make him our highest ever earner All photos/videos done and paperwork filed to change squad numbers May to come in on Wednesday to sign deal, but contacts club to tell them hes had a higher offer and they've to match it Club refuse ...has been confirmed by him. Silly laddie. If that is indeed true, then that would be a credible explanation and the club have done the right thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Stevie May is a mumbling wee b*****d anyway. We are a club of integrity and we should only sign players who are actually coherent when being interviewed. Our PR is already bad enough as it is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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