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6 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Wilders promoters are trying to make cash on him too. And they know that cracking a million ppvs in America where they pay about 40 quid for it, plus gate, plus corporate is where its at. 90k at Wembley doesnt make up for promoting an American show, in America screening it at America friendly times.
 

This fight would break PPV US records pricewise, even compared to what Alvarez gets imo. Could be $100 sale and the US market will have their dicks in their hands at the prospect of another undisputed HW champ. and like you say it's getting shown at a broadcast time to get a shitload more buys than UK time. 

There's also the other back end stuff like very heavy casino and hotel income which arguably makes it extremely profitable for the 2 promoters in an indirect way if you know what I mean and the fact there'll be rows of A list celebs in attendance spending serious cash not just bevvied idiots buying cheap seats. There's no comparison profitwise at all. 

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1 hour ago, Bairnardo said:
1 hour ago, AUFC90 said:
The big money's with AJ in the heavyweight division.

No it isnt. Its in generating PPVs in America. Same as everywhere else. The Wembley gate doesnt beat that.

I might be getting confused here but is the Joshua Miller fight not going to be screened on DAZN for $9.99 a month?

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1 hour ago, AUFC90 said:
2 hours ago, Bairnardo said:
No it isnt. Its in generating PPVs in America. Same as everywhere else. The Wembley gate doesnt beat that.

Fury v Wilder generated something like 300000 ppv. Joshua generated double that against any old c**t down the pub and generated 5x that against Klitch. I'll ask again why should Joshua travel to the USA to "prove himself " whereas Wilder doesn't need to prove himself the other way round. His record is absolute shite so I'd suggest he needs to prove himself a bit more.

300000 PPV buys in America generates more money than 1 million buys in the UK.

Joshua-Wilder would make far more money in America than over here.

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10 minutes ago, Neilly said:

Yup. I'm pretty sure PPV isn't a thing anymore for AJ or Canelo as they both fight on DAZN.

If Wilder keeps his belt and Joshua-Wilder happens it'll end up on Showtime PPV. I'll be stunned if it doesn't.

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300000 PPV buys in America generates more money than 1 million buys in the UK.
Joshua-Wilder would make far more money in America than over here.
Hence why people like Floyd and Canelo arent racing to fight in the UK, and instead book the same two dates in Vegas year after year. And why British and European fighters fall oher themselves to get across there. Its not difficult. Hearn is doing well in what he does. He has made himself relevant on the world stage and thats not easy to do in boxing, but Las Vegas is a juggernaut in fight terms.

If you can get your fighter to sell well in America then a 90k gate at Wembley becomes pocket change.
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11 minutes ago, Super_A said:

If Wilder keeps his belt and Joshua-Wilder happens it'll end up on Showtime PPV. I'll be stunned if it doesn't.

It's bound to go Showtime PPV.  There'll be a load of smoke and mirrors stuff going on long beforehand to make it seem like it's in the average punter's best interests for the long term a bit like all Hearn's narrative a couple of years ago about how increasing the amount of PPVs Sky charge will help fund and improve the average Saturday night show and PBC advertising all free boxing when it started up. Look how that worked out, there's no way they're missing out on this cash.

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I'm pretty confident that Hearns/Joshua are only going to America to gain relevance now that The Man is back, they would have been quite happy to continue to rake in the cash if Wilder/Fury hadn't usurped them.

They both watched Fury/Wilder, even they know AJ is no longer the main man.

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Vegas and US PPV makes far more than 90,000 at Wembley + UK PPV. It always will. The casinos pay mental money for that shit and they can price the tickets however the f**k they like.

Why do you think May-Pac was at the MGM Grand and not a huge 100k US Stadium that it could have easily sold out?


Anyone who doesn’t gobble up everything EH says knows this.
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Fury has signed an £80m deal with ESPN.  That now means that Wilder, Fury and Joshua all have different broadcasters in the US (Wilder is on Showtime, Joshua on DAZN).  Despite this Fury and Frank Warren are confident that it makes a rematch easier. 

Do ESPN show pay-per-views?  Maybe they are looking to move into it, now that HBO has stopped it's boxing coverage.

 

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Fury has signed an £80m deal with ESPN.  That now means that Wilder, Fury and Joshua all have different broadcasters in the US (Wilder is on Showtime, Joshua on DAZN).  Despite this Fury and Frank Warren are confident that it makes a rematch easier. 
Do ESPN show pay-per-views?  Maybe they are looking to move into it, now that HBO has stopped it's boxing coverage.
 
How many fights is that for, as he's had 1 in four years?
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1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

Fury has signed an £80m deal with ESPN.  That now means that Wilder, Fury and Joshua all have different broadcasters in the US (Wilder is on Showtime, Joshua on DAZN).  Despite this Fury and Frank Warren are confident that it makes a rematch easier. 

Do ESPN show pay-per-views?  Maybe they are looking to move into it, now that HBO has stopped it's boxing coverage.

 

Not PPV just now at least.  Suppose if any fights have the ability to cross networks it HW think Lewis - Tyson was the first time it happened.

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Just now, Boostin' Kev said:

Not PPV just now at least.  Suppose if any fights have the ability to cross networks it HW think Lewis - Tyson was the first time it happened.

Did the Lewis-Holyfield fights not have shared PPVs between HBO (Lewis ) and Showtime (Holyfield)?

It'll be interesting how a Fury-Joshua fight would be  shown in the UK via PPV.  

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4 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Did the Lewis-Holyfield fights not have shared PPVs between HBO (Lewis ) and Showtime (Holyfield)?

It'll be interesting how a Fury-Joshua fight would be  shown in the UK via PPV.  

Don't know about Lewis - Holyfield just heard Lewis - Tyson mentioned a few times in the past.

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2 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Fury has signed an £80m deal with ESPN.  That now means that Wilder, Fury and Joshua all have different broadcasters in the US (Wilder is on Showtime, Joshua on DAZN).  Despite this Fury and Frank Warren are confident that it makes a rematch easier. 

Do ESPN show pay-per-views?  Maybe they are looking to move into it, now that HBO has stopped it's boxing coverage.

 

Fury says : "I can only fight who is available and these big fights usually happen. I will not cry about it when I am an old multi-millionaire. I will not cry about fights that don’t happen.

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Fury and America are a good fit. This lets him carry on boxing without being tested too much. Knock over folk like Charles Martin and Breazeale, go on a few chat shows. Earn $80 without having to face guys who pose a KO threat like Whyte, AJ or Wilder. Hopefully I'm being too cynical. Would be fantastic to see AJ/Wilder/Fury all face each other but the politics of it are dreary as f**k. It might mean Wilder v Whyte or even AJ v Wilder becomes a possibility though later this year. 

1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

Did the Lewis-Holyfield fights not have shared PPVs between HBO (Lewis ) and Showtime (Holyfield)?

It'll be interesting how a Fury-Joshua fight would be  shown in the UK via PPV.  

IIRC Frank Warren on a podcast a few weeks back pondered this and suggested BT and Sky both show it, with revenues being split equally.

Discusses it here too:

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2019/01/06/warren-joshua-fury-bt-sky-ppv/ 

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"I've already beaten Wilder in the US". Well no you didn't & you were put on your back twice in that fight. So, who's fault was it that you DIDN'T win?

£80m is an awful lot of defences of a 'Lineal' championship. Better hope some of his views play well with the Disney family.

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