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Just now, Del_Superwell said:

Hasn't won you anything tho has it, still playing second fiddle to Celtic 

Beat them though for first time in years and there losing players and we are adding and adding for free mostly which is good buisness

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16 minutes ago, Tartan Tammy 1297 said:

Least they have a go at playing proper football 

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There's loads of posts from Tartan Tammy being quoted but I don't see his original posts (apart from those on this page). What's going on here? Has he selectively deleted some of them? Do we just ignore him and hope he gets fed up trolling?

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5 minutes ago, Archie McSquackle said:

There's loads of posts from Tartan Tammy being quoted but I don't see his original posts (apart from those on this page). What's going on here? Has he selectively deleted some of them? Do we just ignore him and hope he gets fed up trolling?

It was the same on the Scotland forum in the David Turnbull thread, he went full "big hoose must stay open" mode in there and seemed to be deleting things.

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Can he delete himself please?

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Just caught up on the Turnbull for Scotland thread. Fair to say it took an unexpected turn...wild.

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Just now, dezz said:

Just caught up on the Turnbull for Scotland thread. Fair to say it took an unexpected turn...wild.

I didn't even know it existed until @Busta Nut mentioned it. Some read.

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2 hours ago, Casagolda said:

The only two I really wanted to keep were Ally Gorrin and Hastie. The latter has already signed for somebody else and the former’s agent seems to be punting his name about here, there and everywhere- so we can assume he’s away as well.

The rest? I’d just bin those offers now to be honest. The likes of Frear, Main and McHugh for a multitude of reasons probably won’t sign on again and with the greatest of respect, none of them are irreplaceable or worth hanging about waiting on.

Would love to keep Aldred and probably Ariyibi as well but I’d imagine both would be well outwith our budget. Obviously you’d have to keep Cadden’s offer on the table for compensation purposes but other than that, I’d be saying our thank you’s and moving onto other targets.  

Agree with this. I posted a video of Robinson's pre-season chat from last season and he talks about feeling like you need to change things a bit every year (in that case he was talking about different back-room staff in the shape of a new physio).

The fact is that the team and style of play as it is, is different now to what it was earlier this season, certainly compared to last season and the period when Frear and McHugh signed. There's loads to like about McHugh but you see the difference in the side when Ally Gorrin's in that role, the knock on from that is that as it stands McHugh isn't a first choice anymore. Same with Frear compared to Ariyibi and Hastie. 

Nothing against these players but this season feels like a learning curve for Robinson and with the number of players out of contract (some that he inherited) it feels like a good opportunity to move on. Especially having seen the difference players like Gorrin, Ariyibi and Hastie made.

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10 hours ago, nsr said:

I dreamed last night that Frear scored a hat-trick for us. For the 3rd goal the entire crowd were screaming at him not to use his left foot, so he used his right and it flew on.

On that evidence, I suggest we offer him a record deal.

Was it against someone better than Edinburgh City?

 

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Aberdeen and Hearts have made offers to Motherwell striker Curtis Main, who will be a free agent at the end of the season. (Daily Express, print edition)

:lol:

I quite like the guy but if he manages to get a substantial wage increase on the back of a season where he’s scored 3 league goals in 31 games then fair play to him and his agent.

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1 minute ago, Casagolda said:

:lol:

I quite like the guy but if he manages to get a substantial wage increase on the back of a season where he’s scored 3 league goals in 31 games then fair play to him and his agent.

I can't see where he fits in at either club TBH. Outwith Cosgrove, Aberdeen have enough strikers who don't score goals and Hearts already have Ikpeazu as their "physical presence" up front.

Based on absolutely nothing at all, I think if Main does go then it will be back to England.

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42 minutes ago, Casagolda said:

:lol:

I quite like the guy but if he manages to get a substantial wage increase on the back of a season where he’s scored 3 league goals in 31 games then fair play to him and his agent.

 

37 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said:

I can't see where he fits in at either club TBH. Outwith Cosgrove, Aberdeen have enough strikers who don't score goals and Hearts already have Ikpeazu as their "physical presence" up front.

Based on absolutely nothing at all, I think if Main does go then it will be back to England.

When Scott Burns broke the original story in The Express about Aberdeen being interested the line was that his preference was to go back south. Which is hardly a surprise. If Aberdeen and Hearts are offering enough to tempt him to stay up here then fair fucks.

As of last month there had been no "movement" in terms of us speaking to him about a new deal. Prior to that he had planned to "assess his future" in January. He was only just in the door last season but given his purple patch he wasn't one of those who signed extensions prior to the SC final (I'm pretty sure Tait, Dunne etc were due to be up this season).

Given he's not really an obvious fit for sexy Motherwell at the moment and it looks like we hadn't sat down with him about extending by April it's not a massive leap to think that we've (at best) made a token offer (if we have actually made an offer) and/or we're not actually that fussed about whether he stays or goes.

I could see Robinson being happy enough at the opportunity to use Main's wage to bring in someone more in line with what we need as the team has evolved.

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I think going back down South would probably be his preferred option but it depends if the offers are there I suppose. I’ve always gotten the impression the rest of the footballing world doesn’t rate Curtis Main as highly as he rates himself. 

If it came down to it, doubling your money to live in Edinburgh and play in front of 15 thousand plus every other week would surely appeal more than pitching up at some League 2 mob in the arse end of nowhere playing in front of two men and a dog.

I’d imagine he’d be quite a high earner and while I do think he’s been a decent player who’s ‘done a job’ for us, as the Capt says it’s hard not to think the money couldn’t be put to better use this summer.

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49 minutes ago, Casagolda said:

:lol:

I quite like the guy but if he manages to get a substantial wage increase on the back of a season where he’s scored 3 league goals in 31 games then fair play to him and his agent.

I fucking hope not.

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14 minutes ago, Casagolda said:

I think going back down South would probably be his preferred option but it depends if the offers are there I suppose. I’ve always gotten the impression the rest of the footballing world doesn’t rate Curtis Main as highly as he rates himself. 

If it came down to it, doubling your money to live in Edinburgh and play in front of 15 thousand plus every other week would surely appeal more than pitching up at some League 2 mob in the arse end of nowhere playing in front of two men and a dog.

I’d imagine he’d be quite a high earner and while I do think he’s been a decent player who’s ‘done a job’ for us, as the Capt says it’s hard not to think the money could be put to better use this summer.

He's from Tyneside I think, I seem to remember there was an interview with Martin Foyle where he suggested "location" had been a factor in getting the deal "over the line" given we were signing him from Portsmouth. So you'd think if that's true then Hearts would be a pretty decent shout. Wage bump, playing at Tynecastle and on the East coast so relatively straightforward travel.

Between the wages/contributions we're paying for Main, Sammon, McCormack, Newell and Tanner (all of whom are out of contract/returning to their parent club) that's a fair chunk of budget to work with.

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22 minutes ago, Casagolda said:

I’ve always gotten the impression the rest of the footballing world doesn’t rate Curtis Main as highly as he rates himself. 

Theres been a rumour around Twitter for months that his agent is constantly hawking him to Celtic and Rangers :lol:

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I've never been a fan of the approach that some players take when they try too hard to please supporters (badge kissing, calling their current club "massive" when it patently isn't, putting #COYx at the end of every we go again tweet, etc). Main has been the polar opposite of that  though - he's never come over as being remotely enthused about ending up at Fir Park and in a clearer way than most, it's all been about the stepping stone for him. I'd imagine that he'd take any option other than us in the summer.

That said, I actually liked him as a player - I thought in our good spell from Jan until he was dropped in preference to Scott he was pretty effective as a loan striker (apart from er, actually scoring goals). I think in the right setup, he'd be a good partner for another striker that does actually score goals and I'd assume that is where other managers see him.

It's weird this year (and it's probably a result of a very non-descript season) - but there is a strong feeling that pretty much all of the out of contract players are eminently replaceable and are welcome to seek the bigger wage packet that you can get almost everywhere else. The only ones that I'll be genuinely sad to see go will be Tam Aldred and the bold Gboly.

 

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