Ron Aldo Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I've always mixed up Colin Meldrum and Alan Combe for some reason. I don't remember Meldrum being particularly shite for us but I was about to recall a game against Killie when Craigan ran up the stairs of the East Stand to launch a throw-in into the box in the last minute only for Colin Meldrum to basically drop it into the net. Then I remembered that it was actually Alan Combe who was in goal for Killie that day so, really, this post is pointless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, crazylegsjoe said: I think people do just that to be fair. He was brutal in that game and the Rangers game at Fir Park directly after, but equally he was great in the semi-final against Hearts and on Skippy Sunday. Most of the time I had very little to complain about with Marshall. Aye, I know. Lets call it the flipside of Graeme Smith. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Desp said: Woods definitely was in a Scotland squad at one point. May have only been the one time, but was in as no.3 goalie. As an aside, I remember having a Twitter discussion around the best/worst Motherwell goalkeepers since Ally Maxwell. My 'Top 20' was as follows, based on their ability & contribution during their time at Fir Park; FYI - there's some utter fucking dross from 10 downwards... Also, I'll fight anyone who says Colin Meldrum wasn't the worst goalkeeper we've seen at Fir Park in the last 30 years. 1. Sieb Dijkstra 2. Darren Randolph 3. Ally Maxwell 4. John Ruddy 5. Gordon Marshall 6. Andy Goram 7. Graeme Smith 8. Scott Howie 9. Connor Ripley 10. Stevie Woods 11. George Long 12. Mark Brown 13. Francois Dubordeaux 14. Lee Hollis 15. Gunnar Nielsen 16. Michael Fraser 17. Miko Kaven 18. Dan Twardzik 19. Craig Samson 20. Colin Meldrum Sieb Dijkstra (No-one ever spells it the right way, we should just stick with Dykstra ) was by some distance my favourite keeper (and one of my favourite players full stop) and would be top of my list 100% - still feels slightly wrong to say that he was better than Randolph though.... Fraser would be bottom of my list. f**k me though - that list just sums up that we've had only had 4 genuinely good keepers in over 30 years (Goram could be added to that I guess as he showed flashes of how good he had been). We've done overly well on forwards in the same period (that would be some top 20) - but *really* badly on keepers.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said: I've just clocked Marshall at 5 on Desp's list as well. f**k off Marshall. I know it's unfair to judge him, but that day at Hampden... f**k me. Marshall did indeed have a shocker that day, but so did about eight of the outfield players. As Joe said, his performances against Hearts in the Semi, to actually get us to said final, and against Celtic in 2005 make up for a bad day at the office. I felt he was a very solid 'keeper during his time with us. Colin Meldrum throwing goals in against St. Mirren late in the Malpas season, when we chucked away a two goal lead, was the pinnacle for me. Absolute dug meat. I didn't realise Billy Thomson played that many games. I was still young at that point, and Sieb took all the headlines in my book. Sadly no place in the list either for stalwarts like Luke Daniels, Scott Thomson or Barry John Corr. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Swello said: We've done overly well on forwards in the same period (that would be some top 20) Oh ya fucker!! If you've got time, please proceed... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe said: For me, Craig Samson was the worst. A culmination of several factors going into that. The fact that before he came to us he must've played a good 300 professional games, but had an absolutely massive goal to blunder ratio was brutal. I remember from a young age, keepers in my boys club were told that if they couldn't catch, palm the ball to side. The number of times Samson parried the ball back into the danger zone was incredible. The fact he lost his place to a loanee brought in as second choice, who all things told wasn't very good himself, speaks volumes. I agree with this. Samson must have only played 30-40 games for us across his time and I can think of a frightening number of blunders that cost us games. There were occasions where I started to wonder if he actually had hands in those gloves or were they, in fact, lettuce leaves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, Desp said: Oh ya fucker!! If you've got time, please proceed... This could tear the relative calm of this place apart, tbqhwy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, well fan for life said: I agree with this. Samson must have only played 30-40 games for us across his time and I can think of a frightening number of blunders that cost us games. There were occasions where I started to wonder if he actually had hands in those gloves or were they, in fact, lettuce leaves. Between him, Meldrum and Woods, our bad goalkeepers are certainly advocates of the "those who can't do, teach" phrase. 17 minutes ago, Desp said: Oh ya fucker!! If you've got time, please proceed... Is this proper centre forwards? Or are guys like Murphy, McFadden, Elliott etc allowed to feature? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe said: Between him, Meldrum and Woods, our bad goalkeepers are certainly advocates of the "those who can't do, teach" phrase. Is this proper centre forwards? Or are guys like Murphy, McFadden, Elliott etc allowed to feature? Yes they were attackers, get them in! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Best centre forwards of the last 20 years - 1. Michael Higdon. End of list. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 The Goalie chat is amazing. The chat a few of us had on twitter about it was interesting too. 12 hours ago, thisGRAEME said: Can I say he was the worst for the longest period of time? I think that is a good shout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Ron Aldo said: Best centre forwards of the last 20 years - 1. Michael Higdon. End of list. You're talking about in world football, right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Ron Aldo said: Best centre forwards of the last 20 years - 1. Michael Higdon. End of list. I love folk trying to argue that Higdon and Sutton were poor players. There is a few folk oot there who did argue that tae 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Busta Nut said: Any one who says Stevie Woods is the worst Motherwell goalie ever is at it. There were definitely others who were individually worse than Stevie Woods but the length of time he was with us and the decade of blunders he made puts him top of my list for worse Motherwell goalkeeper. The other duds came and went in a short space of time but Woods hung around like a bad smell whilst losing his place to five different goalkeepers and repeatedly made the same basic errors throughout his time at Fir Park. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) Hmmm - this might get me killed as I've probably missed someone blindingly obvious or put Higdon too low 1. Davie Cooper 2. Tommy Coyne 3. Dougie Arnott 4. Scott McDonald 5. Michael Higdon 6. Louis Moult 7. John Sutton 8. James McFadden 9. Chris Porter 10. Ross McCormack 11. Jamie Murphy 12. Henrik Ojammaa 13. Lucas Jutciewicz 14. Lionel Ainsworth 15. Marvin Johnson 16. Davie Clarkson 17. Owen Coyle 18. Chris Humphrey 19. Richie Foran 20. Nick Blackman ETA: I was following the same timescale as @Desp's keeper list Edited February 14, 2019 by Swello 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Without a doubt, Michael Higdon is our best striker of the past twenty years. A proper No.9 who scored goals, got stuck in about defenders and spearheaded a very good attacking line for us at the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, MJC said: Without a doubt, Michael Higdon is our best striker of the past twenty years. A proper No.9 who scored goals, got stuck in about defenders and spearheaded a very good attacking line for us at the time. The best performance I think I've seen from a Motherwell centre forward is when Celtic played Victor Wanyama at centre half and big Higdon flung him about like a wet trackie. Glorious. Lets not forget when he got lifted at the player of the year awards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I think the "Forward" is too varied to put them in an order that would settle in my mind. I'd be too caught up in the shite wans tae. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said: The best performance I think I've seen from a Motherwell centre forward is when Celtic played Victor Wanyama at centre half and big Higdon flung him about like a wet trackie. Glorious. Lets not forget when he got lifted at the player of the year awards. And had Neil Lennon choking on his chewing tobacco after his nomination and no Celtic player was nominated. They were good times indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 It's all personal choice of course, but I wouldn't include Cooper, Johnson or Ainsworth in my list. They were wingers for me, which I'd have included in the midfield area and can't ever recall them having a spell through the middle for us. No issues with anyone who wants to fire them in, though. For me, in my time supporting the 'Well (I hope I've not forgotten anyone obvious!); 1. Tommy Coyne 2. Michael Higdon 3. Dougie Arnott 4. Scott McDonald 5. James McFadden 6. Louis Moult 7. John Sutton 8. Chris Porter 9. Owen Coyle 10. David Clarkson 11. John Spencer 12. Ross McCormack 13. Lukas Jutkiewicz 14. Henrik Ojamaa 15. Lee McCulloch 16. Stuart Elliott 17. Jamie Murphy 18. Dirk Lehmann 19. Richie Foran 20. Willie Falconer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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