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1 minute ago, Kapowzer said:

It was more the passes, successful pass %, key passes stuff, every one of those has to be recorded and that can only be manual surely? It must be a nightmare if its tiki-taka triangles.

They were previously done by someone in stadium, but I *think* they're now done by someone pressing buttons via a TV feed.

That said, you'd be genuinely amazed what stuff can be done via automation.

Certainly from an article from 2018;

“We have people who go to some games and automated functions help collect the rest. We cover a number of leagues around the world, but we can’t possibly cover everything

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I remember reading a thing about Jock Wallace when he was at Celtic. When he’d go to watch the opposition he had a piece of paper divided it in half and used his pen to trace roughly where team he was there to see played. It would leave lots of scrubbed of blue but pockets of white. He exploited the gaps and doubled down on their go-to’s. Pretty simple stuff.

Now there would  be a metric on players pre game carbohydrate intake over adidas or Nike boots collated referenced against xG (which I still don’t fully grasp).

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On 03/09/2022 at 11:10, capt_oats said:

I've mentioned this before but Morris seems to have played the majority of his career at left mid. Having said that @RandomGuy. posted a radar in here after Morris signed and it looked like Gary Bowyer (now managing Dundee) signed him for Salford and had him playing right wing last season for some reason.

Given we've got Spittal, McKinstry, Aarons you'd imagine they'd be first picks for the positions plus Shields and Efford as options out wide it definitely leaves Morris in that second group.

Tbh, that's probably no bad thing if he's allowed a bit of time to settle and just exist in the group without much expectation.

Aye WyScout had it as his main position in 21/22.

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FWIW his style hasn't really changed from when he played (well) on the left.

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Never really been a "runner" nor particularly creative.

Maybe one whos lost the legs to get in about the box and get chances, which was what elevated him above average/below average.

 

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8 minutes ago, ropy said:

I had Jamie Dolan vibes with our goal keeper yesterday 

Genuinely curious what the script was there.

I know the black GK kit that's been worn most games would have clashed with United's but Kelly was wearing a hi-vis version on the opening day against St Mirren and last week against Killie that wouldn't have clashed with anyone but instead we made a dash to the club shop to get a training shirt printed up?

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13 minutes ago, capt_oats said:

Genuinely curious what the script was there.

I know the black GK kit that's been worn most games would have clashed with United's but Kelly was wearing a hi-vis version on the opening day against St Mirren and last week against Killie that wouldn't have clashed with anyone but instead we made a dash to the club shop to get a training shirt printed up?

I’ve mentioned before but the keeper wearing claret and or amber makes him look smaller, the high viz or the midweek white version make him look more imposing.

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1 hour ago, ropy said:

I’ve mentioned before but the keeper wearing claret and or amber makes him look smaller, the high viz or the midweek white version make him look more imposing.

Couldn't wear white as he'd clash with our outfield players.  But the decision was made Friday as in the Moult "I'm Home" video you see it set up there.  

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3 minutes ago, Dosser2014 said:

Goss has to be in the mix, as he's one of the most improved players under Hammell. He's thrived on being given more freedom rather than being tactically shackled.

It's not just that he's improved/freed - it's that he's been running the show and has been our best player post-Sligo.

At least there is competition - last season, we usually struggled for 4 credible candidates most months.

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20 minutes ago, Dosser2014 said:

Goss has to be in the mix, as he's one of the most improved players under Hammell. He's thrived on being given more freedom rather than being tactically shackled.

Hammell getting both Goss and Slattery to come back close to and pick up the ball early from the defenders and distributing the ball with their obvious abilites from there has made all the difference. The midfield is constantly available and engaged rather than getting bypassed by Alexanderball hoofball missiles.

Also have left footers with ability on the left and right footers with ability on the right of the park, basic stuff but has all made a hell of a difference also imo.

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20 minutes ago, Neil86 said:

Btw, How good is Ross Tierney on the half turn. For such a wee guy he uses his body so well in those positions, was it David Carson he sent into the East stand for a hot dog from the throw in on wednesday?

So glad to see him getting more game time, sitting behing the front 2, getting some box to box work in, some lovely touches and can look after himself as well. Think I was, unfairly, raging a KVV as that pass through in the first half that he smacked off of the bar would have been a just reward for the work done by Tierney.

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The difference between these players under Stevie Hammell, and the same players under GA is nothing short of astounding. I always thought that the players were better than they were being allowed to show in the previous "system", but Im not sure I was prepared for just how big and just how quickly the change could/would be made. I defended GA up to a point when he was getting results and hoped that he had a strategy in place to improve us over time, but with hindsight, it is clear that the strategy was just wrong the whole time. Regardless of results (which hopefully will come) how good is it to enjoy watching our team again?

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