welldaft Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: Who would have known we would have had a potentially shite draw. Kazakhstan, Turkey or Macedonia . Could have been Portugal, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria etc etc. Pray for Sparta Prague but only a 1 in 4 chance of that coming off. Not remotely funny anymore. Thank f*ck I am going to Sligo. I do note however the Macedonian side are the lowest ranked seeds if that is any consolation. My money is on Kazakhstan Edited July 16, 2022 by welldaft 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Give me Latvia / North Macedonia trip for better chance of next round than a "decent trip". It is a football competition after all 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Busta Nut said: Looking at that the only name that stands out is Sparta Prague (13.500). But let's remember due to the nature of the UEFA awards co-efficient points Lincoln Red Imps have the same as us. Upon first look Turkey gives you the fear as its is going through a phase where the big three teams are all in turmoil as explained here. Doesn't dispute even the lesser teams have access to decent money for squads due to the crowd sizes and TV audience in a country of 85 million. Istanbul's co-efficient 25.000. Here's a video worth a look that I mentioned around the Woolery move: Poland give you the fear because of the perceived success of their national team and again the size of the country but Rakow are 3.175, that seems too low. In the big scheme of things not a bad draw unless we get the 1 in 2 chance of Prague or Istanbul/Israel (4.875). Astana have oil money and is an arse to get to. Barring a giant killing, the best tie for progression is Valmiera vs Shkendija (Tetovo on Bert's site). 3.175 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raków_Częstochowa 20.500 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Astana 13.500 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Sparta_Prague 5.450 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_FK 2.000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valmiera_FC 9.000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KF_Shkëndija 25.000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/İstanbul_Başakşehir_F.K. 4.875 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabi_Netanya_F.C. Edited July 17, 2022 by Kapowzer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckets Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 53 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: That's a good group. Shkendija/Valmiera is probably the most beatable tie across all groups. Any of the other 3 would be big favourites against Motherwell. Much easier group than Dundee United's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukovic Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Busta Nut said: Prague please 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowsdower Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 After seeing Utds group, ours doesn't look too bad assuming we get there.Anyone booked their flights to Kazakhstan and Macedonia yet? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillips455 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Apparently, PAOK are in both group 3 AND 5. So either the seeding have been messed up or PAOK will have to play 2 teams at the same time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Phillips455 said: Apparently, PAOK are in both group 3 AND 5. So either the seeding have been messed up or PAOK will have to play 2 teams at the same time. They are. I can see this being redrawn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillips455 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: They are. I can see this being redrawn Pretty sure there is a pairing thatbhasnt been posted on that list that they accidently put the PAOK piar in. Will wait and see if they change it though. Edit: others have found that the CSKA Sofia vs MGP tie isn't on the list so they must have mistaken that for the POAK Tie. Should be fixed relatively soon. Edited July 17, 2022 by Phillips455 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowsdower Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Hope it's group 5 they fix, otherwise United fans that booked flights to where paok is are going to revolt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillips455 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Anyway, it seems that if we are draw with the first 2 ties, we would be seeded for the Play off Round (assuming we even make it that far). The other 2 would leave us unseeded in that case. Info can be found here: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedecl2022.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, rowsdower said: Hope it's group 5 they fix, otherwise United fans that booked flights to where paok is are going to revolt. The tie that's missing is: CSKA-Sofia (BUL) vs Makedonija GP Skopje (MKD) They got their Levski's and the CSKA's mixed up. Probably a copy and paste blunder, as to which group they pop into that's one for UEFA. Summer intern kid getting his jotters. Edited July 17, 2022 by Kapowzer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Phillips455 said: Anyway, it seems that if we are draw with the first 2 ties, we would be seeded for the Play off Round (assuming we even make it that far). The other 2 would leave us unseeded in that case. Info can be found here: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedecl2022.html I thought if we progress by beating anyone we are drawn with in Q3 then we keep our co-efficient regardless of our victory, we don't replace them in their current place in the draw as shown. But when you read the small print (3x) you are right (I think) that the coefficient of the better team from any draw is used because the draw is made before the tie is completed. Suppose it is a small bonus for doing a giant killing (in the case of Astana or Prague). We are 12th in the Q3 unseeded teams and Villareal, West Ham and Fiorentina enter directly at the Playoff stage with 2 Europa League dropouts (don't understand why Bert has Rapid Wien as "unknown"). Edited July 17, 2022 by Kapowzer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Kazakhstan nice at this time of year? At least you don't need a visa! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliphas Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Kev: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kevin-van-veen-opens-up-27500181 More to the big man than meet the eye 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, eliphas said: Kev: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kevin-van-veen-opens-up-27500181 More to the big man than meet the eye Good to see the daily record have got their ads on topic.... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillips455 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Kapowzer said: I thought if we progress by beating anyone we are drawn with in Q3 then we keep our co-efficient regardless of our victory, we don't replace them in their current place in the draw as shown. But when you read the small print (3x) you are right (I think) that the coefficient of the better team from any draw is used because the draw is made before the tie is completed. Suppose it is a small bonus for doing a giant killing (in the case of Astana or Prague). We are 12th in the Q3 unseeded teams and Villareal, West Ham and Fiorentina enter directly at the Playoff stage with 2 Europa League dropouts (don't understand why Bert has Rapid Wien as "unknown"). Yeah but this is assuming the seeded team win the ties. If, somehow, the unseeded team wins then we would also be unseeded as we. Basically it's either a extremely hard 3rd round and much easier ay off, or a slightly less harder 3rd Round and a harder Play off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Latvia or macedonia would be nice. Prague would be a great trip, direct flights, cheap what more can you ask for. The rest are a total ball ache to get to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RostokMcSpoons Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 2 hours ago, eliphas said: Kev: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kevin-van-veen-opens-up-27500181 More to the big man than meet the eye I'm reading Kevin Twaddle's autobiography now, it's good fun reading the back room stuff about Spenny etc, but the gambling stuff is pretty grim. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Assuming the favourites get through each of those ties, the only one I’m guessing we’d have even a slight chance against would be the Macedonian mob. Astana, Basaksehir (who just signed Mesut Ozil) and Sparta would batter us. Prague is probably the best option for playing a big name and relatively easy travel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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