Guest superward Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) Yeah, I don't disagree either to be honest. However, playing devil's advocate here, if I was GA, and told he had only played 20 odd games in 3 seasons and asked why, you'd hope he would be told: - Trev was out most of 2018/19 with DVT. That isn't an injury in the sense we all normally talk about. So, unless that has an ongoing concern that should really be discounted. - 2019/2020 he was kept out the team by Gillespie and then the season kyboshed in March. Gillespie getting a move off the back of his form to Newcastle. - 2020/2021 is back in the team and plays 16 games, including a run out for N. Ireland. We, arguably, rush him back within about two months, only for him to do it again. So for me, the key question, is last season. Are those knee injuries a problem likely to re-occur to a 33 year old goalie, or are they now 'fixed' DT10 stylee, with a good % chance if not reoccurring. All based on the premise he is still a gid goalie of course! Edited June 8, 2021 by superward 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 13 hours ago, capt_oats said: Has Barry Maguire bought into the daft laddie marketing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 36 minutes ago, superward said: Yeah, I don't disagree either to be honest. However, playing devil's advocate here, if I was GA, and told he had only played 20 odd games in 3 seasons and asked why, you'd hope he would be told: - Trev was out most of 2018/19 with DVT. That isn't an injury in the sense we all normally talk about. So, unless that has an ongoing concern that should really be discounted. - 2019/2020 he was kept out the team by Gillespie and then the season kyboshed in March. Gillespie getting a move off the back of his form to Newcastle. - 2020/2021 is back in the team and plays 16 games, including a run out for N. Ireland. We, arguably, rush him back within about two months, only for him to do it again. So for me, the key question, is last season. Are those knee injuries a problem likely to re-occur to a 33 year old goalie, or are they now 'fixed' DT10 stylee, with a good % chance if not reoccurring. All based on the premise he is still a gid goalie of course! I had made a couple of edits to my original post, presumably while you were typing that. 100% agree, there has to be context and overlooking or omitting Gillespie keeping Carson out the team is pretty disingenuous and it's unfair to imply that the games where he wasn't starting were entirely injury related. I think it's fair to say there's a definite question mark there though and equally I don't think Fox signing necessarily means "the club is confident Carson will be fit and stay fit", as I saw someone suggesting on SO. I just see Fox signing as a probable indication that Morrison will be going out on loan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casagolda Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 Devante Cole away to Barnsley. That’s some move for him like, signing for a team who were in the Championship play-offs last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) That's yer Decanter off to Barnsley then. Absolutely fair play. He's not about to kb a move to a Championship side (and one he's already played for). Edit: @Casagolda beat me to it. Edited June 8, 2021 by capt_oats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Great move for him, and I suppose another good advert for us? silver linings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 ANNOUNCE MOULT. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 AT LEAST HE DIDN'T SIGN FOR ST MIRREN...amirite? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Scunnered but was feeling increasingly inevitable. Aye f**k it, get Moult in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 The inevitability of signing Moult is filling me with dread tbqhwy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Fair play to him, that's a much better move than I was expecting him to get. I thought top end League One/bottom end Championship would have been his level, but to land at a team that was in the playoffs, probably (at least) treble your wages and get to live close to home (assuming he lives in Manchester) then it's a bit of a no brainer. That's the spine of last years team away now (Kelly, Dec, Campbell and Cole) so a real chance for GA to put his stamp on the squad. Announce Moult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 The one player I really wanted to keep. There was a point in the 2nd half of the season where Cole was looking too good (and I said so at the time). He was scoring of course but he was also doing turns and running away from defenders that made him look like a higher level player and lo and behold, he is one - so quite gutted about that. The decks are probably as clear as they are going to get now - so it's going to be a pretty unrecognisable team next season, which is what we all wanted, right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RostokMcSpoons Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Disappointing Decanter's away, but congrats and all the best to him. I saw Liam had posted a "goodbye and thanks" twitter message, but is it definite now that he's not coming back? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Swello said: The one player I really wanted to keep. There was a point in the 2nd half of the season where Cole was looking too good (and I said so at the time). He was scoring of course but he was also doing turns and running away from defenders that made him look like a higher level player and lo and behold, he is one - so quite gutted about that. The decks are probably as clear as they are going to get now - so it's going to be a pretty unrecognisable team next season, which is what we all wanted, right? My minor worry about Devante was that we'd go all in on him then find that his form since January was a purple patch and we'd see him going back to looking good but without the goals. I don't mean that in a "didn't fancy her anyway" sort of thing it's just that this season (or more specifically Jan - May 21) seemed like a genuine outlier compared with the rest of his career - certainly as far as goal return goes. Clearly I'd absolutely have kept him on but either way absolutely fair fucking play to him. Barnsley's a good move for him for the reasons @dezz points out and to echo @Neil86 it's a good look for us that it's another of our players moving on to a Championship level club. Back at the end of the season Alexander was quoted as saying he expected between 7-10 players in. I took that to be dictated by who he wanted to keep actually signing up so I'm guessing we're looking at at least 8 or 9 new bodies now. Anyway, about Louis Moult... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superwell87 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Gutted we could keep a hold of Cole, however that's a brilliant move for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 By my count this is where we are. 19 bodies in total (including Morrison, Johnston, Devine and Cornelius) and starting XI gaps for Gallagher, Campbell, Polworth, Roberts, Cole. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Gutted Decanter is away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I'm not sure that he will go there and start 40 games as a number #9 next season, but you really can not blame a guy of his age taking a three-year deal on high end Championship wages. There are shades of Alex Rodriguez-Gorrin with this one. Had we extended his deal in January, it would maybe have been a bit weird, but by the end of the season we are gutted to lose him. On the plus side, considering the #numberpolis, hopefully this means we can get back to our first choice striker wearing number 9 and none of this 44 pish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 See how those Paisley c***s like it, get Adam Hammill, Andy Dorman and Ilkay Durmus in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I thought we might have convinced Devante to stay another season but that was on the assumption his other options would be a bunch of English League 1 dross.Fair play to him getting a move to Barnsley. Can't really hold that against him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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