capt_oats Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: That's given me the absolute fucking fear. I bet he scores at least 3 against us this season. Absolutely no doubt that's what's happening. What a time though.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Absolutely no doubt that's what's happening. What a time though.... What a fucking day. George Long and Marvin Johnson have had decent careers to be fair. I could be wrong but is that Conor Grant at the end? If so scored a screamer of a freekick for Plymouth the other night (though I have no idea how his career has gone apart from that). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said: What a fucking day. George Long and Marvin Johnson have had decent careers to be fair. I could be wrong but is that Conor Grant at the end? If so scored a screamer of a freekick for Plymouth the other night (though I have no idea how his career has gone apart from that). Grant's between Laing and Johnson. It's Thomas at the end behind big Tony. Edited November 6, 2020 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, capt_oats said: Thee Nathan Thomas signs for Accies. What was the story with him? Was there not some behind the scenes shenanigans? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, capt_oats said: Absolutely no doubt that's what's happening. What a time though.... #StrakerDay is the best day of my life tbqhwy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Hadn't heard that. Thought he just wasn't good enough but he didn't get that much of a chance (2 games I think) so it was difficult for us to tell. Anyway, what are we looking for tonight? Draws all round? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Swello said: What was the story with him? Was there not some behind the scenes shenanigans? Possibly to the shenanigans but I think the generally accepted line is we thought we'd missed out on Marvin so signed Thomas as a fall back then ended up getting the Johnson deal done so ended up with both because...why the f**k not, the bold Les was chucking cash around. It was #StrakerDay. I suppose in hindsight it isn't too weird given our league position at the time but his actual deal was til the end of the season with the club having a year option: https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2015/02/03/nathan-thomas-joins-from-plymouth/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 If St Johnstone score again we are top 6 ...and Ross County don’t score 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 10 hours ago, capt_oats said: Absolutely no doubt that's what's happening. What a time though.... What I love is the complete serenity and confidence on Baraclough's face Like, surely he'd seen Straker, Long and Laing play before and knew there was the potential scenario that the whole thing would go tits up? But no, total trust that everything would somehow work out. What a man. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18May1991 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: What I love is the complete serenity and confidence on Baraclough's face Like, surely he'd seen Straker, Long and Laing play before and knew there was the potential scenario that the whole thing would go tits up? But no, total trust that everything would somehow work out. What a man. I can clearly remember the tour round the pitch at Fir Park after the home play off game against Sevco. We had suffered through a shite season and kind of knew Barackough was a terrible manager who had signed predominately shite players. However, as I watched him take the adulation of the support and wave at us I, fleetingly, thought he might be ok. better to have loved and lost.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: What I love is the complete serenity and confidence on Baraclough's face Like, surely he'd seen Straker, Long and Laing play before and knew there was the potential scenario that the whole thing would go tits up? But no, total trust that everything would somehow work out. What a man. Clearly I've seen that photo many times but it was only yesterday I noticed how much it looks like Bara's just been photoshopped in. Some boi. Edited November 7, 2020 by capt_oats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 We have to remember this is international manager Ian Baraclough we're talking about. Just take a minute to let that sink in. Mental, isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marinello Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Remembering Long and Laing it would have been something else if their signings had occurred later alongside Callum Lang and Chris Long. An announcer's delight " And starting we have two Longs, a Laing and a Lang"!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) Definitely not going with some wild Bara was misunderstood angle or suggesting he's due a reappraisal but here's how everyone fits in compared to our other permanent managers in the time I've been watching us. I'd also noticed that Robinson was creeping up on McCall and Butcher in terms of number of games managed. Managers win %: Tommy McLean (1st June 1984 - 31st May 1994) - P 403 W 123 D 111 L 169 - 30.52%* - (League games only) Alex McLeish (13th July 1994 - 10th February 1998) - P 156 W 48 D 45 L 63 - 30.8% Harri Kampman (25th February 1998 - 4th October 1998) - P 22 W 6 D 5 L 11 - 27.27% Billy Davies (14th October 1998 - 18th September 2001) - P 123 W 41 D 31 L 51 - 33.3% Eric Black (16th October 2001 - 24th April 2002) - P 27 W 7 D 4 L 17 - 25.9% Terry Butcher (24th April 2002 - 17th May 2006) - P 175 W 60 D 37 L 78 - 34.29% Maurice Malpas (17th May 2006 - 1st June 2007) - P 44 W 14 D 8 L 22 - 31.8% Mark McGhee (18th June 2007 - 12th June 2009) P 85 W 35 D 17 L 36 - 39.8% Jim Gannon (30th June 09 - 28th Dec 09) P 25 W 7 D 8 L 10 - 28.0% Craig Brown (29th Dec 09 - 10th Dec 10) P 45 W 21 D 10 L 14 - 46.67% Stuart McCall (30th Dec 10 - 2nd Nov 14) P 174 W 74 D 32 L 68 - 42.5% Ian Baraclough (13th Dec 14 - 23rd Sept 15) P 34 W 12 D 5 L 17 -35.3% Mark McGhee (13th Oct 15 - 28th Feb 17) P 62 W 22 D 10 L 30 -35.5% Stephen Robinson (28th Feb 17 - present) P 160 W 71 D 27 L 62 - 44.4% The list of Motherwell managers that McLean's stats came from (league games only) is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Motherwell_F.C._managers Robinson h8rs would probably point out that his numbers have been artificially inflated by the LC groups (his league win % is 38.75% compared to McCall's 45.89%) but McCall was getting bodied out of cups by Albion Rovers and Stjarnan and also only had 1.5 seasons with Rangers in the same league so overall record is a legit comparison IMO. Edited November 7, 2020 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmen Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 158 games with mcleish was 158 games too many! Surprised butcher only had 20 odd more. I thought he had much longer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Marinello said: Remembering Long and Laing it would have been something else if their signings had occurred later alongside Callum Lang and Chris Long. An announcer's delight " And starting we have two Longs, a Laing and a Lang"!!! Should we sign Wang Shuang (only works if you pronounce it Shang)? Shang & Lang. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 6 hours ago, 18May1991 said: I can clearly remember the tour round the pitch at Fir Park after the home play off game against Sevco. We had suffered through a shite season and kind of knew Barackough was a terrible manager who had signed predominately shite players. However, as I watched him take the adulation of the support and wave at us I, fleetingly, thought he might be ok. better to have loved and lost.... I would have him in the Hall of Fame. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Baraclough was a laugh. From saying we'd win the league, to the epic play-offs. Remember this image fondly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 The most surprising stat for me is that Maurice Malpish has a higher win % than any other Manager. I demand a recount. On to the game tomorrow. Would dearly love for us to win or even come away with a point. But history tends to show that when there is any expectation or hope that we can cause an upset then it dissolves fairly quickly after KO. In many ways there is no pressure on us - it is all on Celtic. That can be a good or a bad thing. We need to start well as I expect an onslaught and Celtic to try and go on the front foot from KO. We need to be composed enough and have belief as a team we can take something from the game. As always we will need luck. Giving away soft penalties or a soft goal early on will set the tone. As for the team line up and formation. I would be tempted to go 4-5-1. Goalie and Defence as last game. Watt up front. I expect Grimshaw will be added to midfield to give us a bit of bite and energy. Rest of midfield would be Campbell, Polworth, Maguire and Lang. I have seen this movie too many times before and usually leaves me crying. Every now and then you get to see a happy ending. Fingers crossed for one tomorrow come 2pm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Would you care if a sub that had come off had a look at his phone? I can see the issue if he hadn’t come on yet, he should be engaged in the game. I can see the issue if he spends the rest of the match on the phone, should be taking an interest. But a quick swatch? No issues. Does it depend on the score? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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