mjw Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I seen someone on Steelmen Online ranting That happens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Just now, mjw said: That happens. It's actually the only type of post on Steelmen Online. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 3 hours ago, thisGRAEME said: I'd take him on a 'TV Games only' deal. Like those lads on the wrestling that turn up once every 2 months for the money day. Ahhh the old Ged Brannan contract! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 44 minutes ago, Al B said: Ahhh the old Ged Brannan contract! Absolutely, lets just embrace it and go with it. Every game we're on the telly, just tell Cadden to take a lap and start Ainsworth. Every TV goal he scores, he quadruples his basic wage for the week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 4 hours ago, well fan for life said: I seen someone on Steelmen Online ranting about the number of injuries we've had this season. I would probably say we've had no more injuries than anyone else in the league. We just happened to have injuries/suspensions to our entire first choice back 4 at the same time. There's a staggering lack of perspective when you get folk ranting about that sort of stuff, I suppose it's one of the problems with club specific forums. Many of the users suffer from tunnel vision when it comes to their clubs. Thistle have missed Cerny, Scully, Dumbuya, Welsh, Lawless & Bannigan (thought they probably knew his situation when they gave him that extension) out for chunks of the season I'm sure you could go through every side and highlight injuries. The other aspect is the nature of the injuries. Moult, McManus & Tait have all needed operations, McHugh's head exploded and ended up with a delayed concussion. MacLean broke a toe and dislocated a shoulder (in separate incidents), Kennedy picked up some illness that resulted in him coming back to the club emaciated. I'm not entirely sure what folk expect the club to do to prevent these sort of injuries, if it was folk continually out with pulls and strains then there'd be an argument there but it's not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 20 hours ago, capt_oats said: McHugh's head exploded 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTamMuller Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Kieran Kennedy released and signs for AFC Fylde. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_Superwell Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I've suspected Kennedy has been away for a while, he was left out of a squad photo about 2 months back and took a trip down south which we were told was for an injury but I reckon it was signing talks for AFC Fylde, no doubt another McGhee decision along with decision to let Laing go despite our shambolic defense this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) Have no fit defenders. Release back up defender. Motherwell logic. Edited March 23, 2017 by well fan for life 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Have no fit defenders. Release back up defender. Motherwell logic. He wasn't backing anyone up though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) That's it official now. http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2017/03/23/kieran-kennedy-statement/ It was pretty clear to everyone he'd be gone in the summer so I suppose if Fylde were offering him terms and games then we'd be unlikely to stand in his way. The fact that the statement points out he asked to leave seems relevant, I take it that means we wouldn't have had to settle his contract? The last mention I can find of him kicking a ball is back in November for the u20s against Dundee. It'll be interesting to see if he plays at the weekend, I'd imagine he'll have passed a medical and that. The timing seems a bit weird given the defensive issues we've been having though. Edited March 23, 2017 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 People seem to be losing their heads over this and I can't understand why. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz1886 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Agree with Busta, don't understand why anyone is upset at Kennedy being released. He's honking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I'd guess some folk are looking at it with the view that he (like Laing) was somehow forced/frozen out by McGhee and are desperate to be raging about it. The timing doesn't look great given our defensive injury 'crisis' over the past few weeks. If he's fit there's probably a question as to whether he's a better option at centre half than Heneghan or Ferguson or as cover at right back ahead of McMillan or Ferguson. The way I see it is Kennedy literally hasn't kicked a ball for the first team this season. He's clearly seen the writing on the wall and asked to leave. AFC Fylde have offered him terms and games, Motherwell have decided they're as well getting him off the wage bill as he'll a) be leaving at the end of the season & b) is unlikely to be contributing to the first team between now and the end of the season. He's not playing, won't be getting his contract renewed, another club is willing to take him on and give him games. We'd have to be pretty unreasonable to stand in his way. Even if there's been a nominal pay off of his contract it'll probably be cheaper for them than paying him his full wage until the end of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casagolda Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) Some of our fans just love to be outraged, its like they go out of their way to find reasons to be angry with the club. Surely that's the only reason why you'd get upset over the club releasing a guy that hasn't kicked a ball for us in over 10 months and when he did was generally a bit of a bomb scare. Sums Kennedy up that the best game I seen him have for us was the 2-1 win over Aberdeen last season and even in that game he gave away a penalty and was fortunate not to be sent off. At least this can't come back to bite us, unlike releasing Laing so he could join one of our relegation rivals. Don't get me wrong, wasn't a massive fan of his either like but he'd still be an improvement on Ferguson at right back or Jules at centre half. I know hindsight is a wonderful thing and McGhee couldn't possibly have seen McManus and Tait's injuries coming but releasing a reasonably experienced and versatile defender and replacing him with an inexperienced, teenager on loan from down south who's looked out his depth thus far isn't looking like one of his better decisions. Edited March 24, 2017 by Casagolda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Kennedy has been told by 2 specialists he has to retire, his hips are like my grannies and she's deed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Kennedy signs for semi-pro side, Motherwell at fault. Sound. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 His hips don't lie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Casagolda said: Some of our fans just love to be outraged, its like they go out of their way to find reasons to be angry with the club. Surely that's the only reason why you'd get upset over the club releasing a guy that hasn't kicked a ball for us in over 10 months and when he did was generally a bit of a bomb scare. I think that's pretty much how it stacks up. There are a few other strands though, given the club have been as clear and vocal with their business model, "strategy" (call it what you want) of signing players with a view to developing them and selling on for profit then there seems to be a genuine sense that for some sections of our support if we're bringing a player in and he leaves with us not having a £1m fee in return then people are raging. You tie that in with the whole "it's an outrage that players get injured, the club has to be held account" and it's all a bit draining tbh. Ultimately we brought in a young player with a decent CV as far as clubs go, his games with us were literally his first senior matches as a pro. For various reasons it didn't work out be it our former manager possibly didn't think he was good enough, he turned up after the summer looking like Christian Bale in The Machinist or his hips have fallen to pieces. It seems kind of weird to me that people would actually be getting actively wound up about us releasing a, let's be honest, fairly limited player player who we didn't pay a fee for, is out of contract in the summer, has no resale value and is moving to the 6th tier of English football to get some games where the net result is us getting a player off the wage bill for the rest of the season. Really our only investment in Kennedy, as far as I can see, has been his wages which would have been part of a budget we'd have set out anyway. By all means you can factor it in to a broader conversation about the relative success of our recruitment strategy but that's pretty much it IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Aye but we should just recruit from the lower leagues in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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