Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Chapelhall chap said: That will be the Airdrie side you have failed to defeat this season and now much improved on the squads you failed to defeat. Look forward to setting the pace to see if you can stay ahead of Albion rovers Sorry. Meant to say Brechin. Until one of their guys comes on with a rant and then it'll be Alloa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 5 hours ago, Chapelhall chap said: That will be the Airdrie side you have failed to defeat this season and now much improved on the squads you failed to defeat. Look forward to setting the pace to see if you can stay ahead of Albion rovers I don't see Airdrie lasting the pace either. Shove that up yer lum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Bring Your Own Socks said: Sorry. Meant to say Brechin. Until one of their guys comes on with a rant and then it'll be Alloa. Stand by yer convictions man ! You are fooling no one !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Hampden Diehard said: I don't see Airdrie lasting the pace either. Shove that up yer lum! Smokeless zones in Airdrie so Lums have been unused for years, but I would like to see QP doing well and replacing one of the far flung teams in the top four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Stamp Army Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Must admit I didn't consider we would be going for the promotion play-offs but Quinno says it's been the plan all along. Glass half empty I'd still be happy if we avoid relegation play offs! Lowest scorers in the league and great white hope Malone languishing on the bench, likewise Liam brown one of our most promising and creative players. But hey apart from games against airdrie Gus has got us organised, hard working and difficult to beat so should count our blessings?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 3 hours ago, theoriginalhedge said: Stand by yer convictions man ! You are fooling no one !! Purely selfish. It's taken us years to get The Hedge back...don't want to lose it after one season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 15 minutes ago, Alf Stamp Army said: Glass half empty I'd still be happy if we avoid relegation play offs! Lowest scorers in the league and great white hope Malone languishing on the bench, likewise Liam brown one of our most promising and creative players. But hey apart from games against airdrie Gus has got us organised, hard working and difficult to beat so should count our blessings?! It's a tough shout either way. I genuinely think Gus was trying to have a more forward facing team and we got punished for it. Never thrashed, but just not quite good enough. Reverts to type and within a month we're in our highest league position in decades. I'd settle happily for a comfy fifth spot in May and a few happy days along the way. And at least one win against the Coatbridge pickpockets. I'll be surprised if Brown doesn't get fed in as the season rolls on. He's prime product for a transfer with a tasty sell-on clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanQP Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Brown is still pretty young so not that big an issue, we won't make the playoffs but hopefully be ok come May in regards to relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I think it's a great way to think. Look up the table instead of over your shoulder. Having said that, if we avoid the relegation playoffs by a single goal on the final day, the season can be termed a success. We're punching well above our weight at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick1867 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 18 hours ago, Alf Stamp Army said: But hey apart from games against airdrie Gus has got us organised, hard working and difficult to beat so should count our blessings?! He's also got us winning now. Although I do agree about the relegation spots. I'll gladly settle for finishing 8th on goal difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Seems like the Gaffer and his prodigy have a slightly different view of our ambitions. Oops! I'm with Tony's version Sorry Gus.Timed at 1:52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legless Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 It's a tough shout either way. I genuinely think Gus was trying to have a more forward facing team and we got punished for it. Never thrashed, but just not quite good enough. Reverts to type and within a month we're in our highest league position in decades. I'd settle happily for a comfy fifth spot in May and a few happy days along the way. And at least one win against the Coatbridge pickpockets. I'll be surprised if Brown doesn't get fed in as the season rolls on. He's prime product for a transfer with a tasty sell-on clause. How can an amateur be sold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaltan Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 I believe that Zanatta's loan ends after this weekends game, what is the chance of him being back with us now that Hearts have a new gaffer,once he got settled in has done well holding the ball and getting into the box, must have caused two or three pk in the last three weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, Legless said: How can an amateur be sold? I said sell-on. Even when unpaid they are still under contract when playing. Gets a transfer to a big club and becomes professional. We negotiate a sell-on percentage, when he's still contracted to QP, for when he moves on from his new club. Like when Andy Robertson went to The Arabs and moved on again quickly to Hull. Works best if they are young enough and good enough to make two big jumps in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Zaltan said: I believe that Zanatta's loan emaybe it's bends after this weekends game, what is the chance of him being back with us now that Hearts have a new gaffer,once he got settled in has done well holding the ball and getting into the box, must have caused two or three pk in the last three weeks He's done well for us and is working on building his strength and competing. I think he'll do even better when he works on finding space but maybe the physical stuff is what Hearts are testing him on. Don't know anything about your team other than they seem to be doing well so it maybe he gets a full season with us. No complaints from Spiders fans if he does. Seems to have a good temperament and attitude too. Hope he makes it at the top level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spider Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Bring Your Own Socks said: I said sell-on. Even when unpaid they are still under contract when playing. Gets a transfer to a big club and becomes professional. We negotiate a sell-on percentage, when he's still contracted to QP, for when he moves on from his new club. Like when Andy Robertson went to The Arabs and moved on again quickly to Hull. Works best if they are young enough and good enough to make two big jumps in a few years. This may be a moot point, but Ibelieve it's a "youth development fee" (now called "training compensation"?) that QP are entitled to rather than a sell-on one which is negotiable? The Robertson example is probably a bad one as Dundee Utd's chairman supposedly made a complete arse of that one by refusing to pay us a development fee by claiming that only applied to transactions between professional clubs (exactly as he had done with the Barry Douglas one). The story goes that Queen's suggested referring to a higher authority for a definitive ruling at which point Mr. Smartypants bricked it and suggested we took a sell-on % instead in the belief that sod-all would come off it given the low level Andy had been signed from. Instead agent Robertson's progress was meteoric, and DU ended up paying Queen's several multiples of what the develpment fee would have been. If my memory serves me right, our very first development fee came from Dumbarton after they sold Neil Collins to Sunderland? Dundee Utd. also famously had to pay Rangers £170k for Charlie Telfer (and what a great deal that initially proved to be when they shipped him out to Livingston!). So unless someone corrects me, my understanding is that clubs are automatically due compensation for training young players, but whether queen's are technically due them under the letter of the lay so far remains "not proven". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnophile Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Zaltan said: I believe that Zanatta's loan ends after this weekends game, what is the chance of him being back with us now that Hearts have a new gaffer,once he got settled in has done well holding the ball and getting into the box, must have caused two or three pk in the last three weeks I heard from a work colleague who is well connected at Tynecastle that we had him for the season. That was before the change of manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaltan Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 The hearts site had him on 29 day loans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Apparently Queens Park will be investigated by the HMRC for handing out £1 professional contracts, which breach the minimum wage rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaltan Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I see Zanatta played with hearts in their development game, I take it that his loan with QP is over and that he will not be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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