capt_oats Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, jagsfan57 said: I was only asking if he was still contracted to QOS. He's not. It was only a one year deal he signed and as far as I can see from QOS' website there's no indication of him having signed an extension (otherwise there wouldn't be a conversation about development compensation). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thistle Archive Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 We're on a great run of unveiling never-seen-before (by us) Jagsmen lately. It's a combination of catch-up post-database-crash, some inspired digging by ourselves and some great contributions from modern-day descendants. Five more have been added since we last posted here, taking us up to the great milestone of 1,300 Jagsmen with a face to their name. Yep, after some 10 years of digging, scanning, cropping and whatnot, we're seeing our 1,300th Partick Thistle player (John Hastie) image today, and what a cracking shot it is; all the way from his great granddaughter, Ros, in Australia. It's a huge gathering, and possibly even the largest tally of first team player images of any club side in the world. Special mentions for Stuart Deans for breaking the ground with this task many moons ago, and to Joe Kelly for all his great digging in recent times. We'll keep at it, you just never know what could still be lurking out there! Incidentally, just like Doolan vs. County, we've passed the milestone immediately (behind the scenes) and we'll have news of this shortly when they've been applied. Full details (and keep your eye on) our home page news... → p.s. Could you help with our missing player images? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenacres Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 10/06/2022 at 07:10, Mediocre Pundit said: Are we talking about compensation to bring back Aiden Fitzpatrick, who came through our academy. Surely we’d owe the majority of development compensation to ourselves with almost nothing to QoS? Did you not get something like £350,000 for him when he went to Norwich does that not cover his development with you . He has been with Queens for the best part of 2 seasons yet you think you should get him back for next to nothing . Think a fee of around £20,000 is what we deserve . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsCG Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, Greenacres said: Did you not get something like £350,000 for him when he went to Norwich does that not cover his development with you . Yes that’s roughly what the fee was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 36 minutes ago, Greenacres said: Did you not get something like £350,000 for him when he went to Norwich does that not cover his development with you . He has been with Queens for the best part of 2 seasons yet you think you should get him back for next to nothing . Think a fee of around £20,000 is what we deserve . Has he done much to deserve a fee of £20k??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Greenacres said: Think a fee of around £20,000 is what we deserve Your horrible Tory rabble deserve liquidation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Your horrible Tory rabble deserve liquidation. That's rather harsh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said: That's rather harsh! To be honest, I’m just in a huff and lashing out after the Scotland game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Did you not get something like £350,000 for him when he went to Norwich does that not cover his development with you . He has been with Queens for the best part of 2 seasons yet you think you should get him back for next to nothing . Think a fee of around £20,000 is what we deserve . He’s been at QOS permanently for a season and that’s all that’ll be taken into consideration. Doubt you’ll be due 20 grand but it’s not the first time you’ve plucked a figure out of thin air. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 49 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: To be honest, I’m just in a huff and lashing out after the Scotland game. As a Thistle fan surely you are used to letdowns time after time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 14 hours ago, D'Jaffo said: He’s been at QOS permanently for a season and that’s all that’ll be taken into consideration. Doubt you’ll be due 20 grand but it’s not the first time you’ve plucked a figure out of thin air. One season in a QOS team that was relegated to League One. I'd offer them Cammy Smith and that's being generous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 If it's only £20k, Kevin Holt could pay it out of his weekly wage for us. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 14 hours ago, D'Jaffo said: He’s been at QOS permanently for a season and that’s all that’ll be taken into consideration. Doubt you’ll be due 20 grand but it’s not the first time you’ve plucked a figure out of thin air. The section on development contributions is in the league rules Section F pages 81-84 Assuming I'm reading this correctly then going by the table below QOS would be due £9k. Quote Compensation F3 Compensation shall be payable to the former Club of a Player only where the Player concerned is Registered with his new Club at or before the end of the first Season in which the Player concerned reaches, will reach or shall have reached the age of 23. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, capt_oats said: The section on development contributions is in the league rules Section F pages 81-84 Assuming I'm reading this correctly then going by the table below QOS would be due £9k. Fitzpatrick is 21. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Just now, Bishop Briggs said: Fitzpatrick is 21. I know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 20 minutes ago, capt_oats said: The section on development contributions is in the league rules Section F pages 81-84 Assuming I'm reading this correctly then going by the table below QOS would be due £9k. 9k?. Ah well. That's the transfer budget blown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 9k? Jordan Rhodes will be on about twice that a week once he signs up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, capt_oats said: The section on development contributions is in the league rules Section F pages 81-84 Assuming I'm reading this correctly then going by the table below QOS would be due £9k. Does that formula not relate to something else? You reference Falkirk wanting £500k for Sibbald when they would have been due < £100k based on those figures which are probably higher now than 5 years ago - also as Fitzpatrick joined QoS permanently at age 20 they wouldn't be classed as part of his development. Think the relevant part is a few pages prior , pp80-81 which has the criteria that @RandomGuy. mentioned so it'll go to tribunal rather than set fee. As will Rudden, which you'd think would be higher for us than anything due for Fitzpatrick as Rudden was here for 2.5 years (AF at QoS for 1), we paid a fee to sign him from Rangers (AF on a free) and Rudden has u21 caps (AF has either u17 or u19, maybe both) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Fuctifano said: Does that formula not relate to something else? You reference Falkirk wanting £500k for Sibbald when they would have been due < £100k based on those figures which are probably higher now than 5 years ago - also as Fitzpatrick joined QoS permanently at age 20 they wouldn't be classed as part of his development. Think the relevant part is a few pages prior , pp80-81 which has the criteria that @RandomGuy. mentioned so it'll go to tribunal rather than set fee. As will Rudden, which you'd think would be higher for us than anything due for Fitzpatrick as Rudden was here for 2.5 years (AF at QoS for 1), we paid a fee to sign him from Rangers (AF on a free) and Rudden has u21 caps (AF has either u17 or u19, maybe both) Aye, there are two distinct sections; compensation and development contribution and you're right that schedule falls under the development contribution section. We also got £350k from Rangers for Hastie who left when he was 21 and had been with us since he was 11 or something. Edited June 12, 2022 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, capt_oats said: We also got £350k from Rangers for Hastie That might be the deal of the century, even if you delete the "k" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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