Bishop Briggs Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 There's speculation on WAT, probably without foundation, that Zac Rudden may wish to return to the Jags next season. Unlike Blair Lyons who had also signed a PCA, he was not mentioned in the loan player update on 4th May - https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/player-update-4th-may-2022/. Similarly, Rudden was not mentioned in the 9th May update on the out-of-contract players - https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/player-update-9th-may-2022/. It is odd that, unlike the other players who are leaving the club, his contribution was ignored. Did he leave us in acrimonious circumstances? If Zac does become available, e.g. not wanted by Dundee's new manager, should McCall offer him a new deal? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 The same post says we’ve also signed Dylan Easton and Lawless have signed and we’re also speaking to Steve David, Christie Elliott and Jordan Rhodes. Would take it with a pinch of salt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 While it’s obviously nonsense, all of that, apart from Christie Elliott, sounds like an excellent laugh for next season. I will now consider anything less than a strikeforce of Graham, Rudden, Dowds and Rhodes to be unacceptable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsCG Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 35 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: It is odd that, unlike the other players who are leaving the club, his contribution was ignored. Did he leave us in acrimonious circumstances? If Zac does become available, e.g. not wanted by Dundee's new manager, should McCall offer him a new deal? I think Rudden leaving (and us not replacing with a similar quality) was one of the factors in us falling away from challenging closer to the top, so its still naturally frustrating. But I'd probably still take him back given his contribution earlier in the season - I'd say its extremely unlikely though. 8 minutes ago, Reid said: The same post says we’ve also signed Dylan Easton and Lawless have signed and we’re also speaking to Steve David, Christie Elliott and Jordan Rhodes. Would take it with a pinch of salt Jordan Rhodes who scored last night to take his side within a game from the English Premier League? Safe to say that one isn't happening. Would absolutely take Easton though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Reid said: The same post says we’ve also signed Dylan Easton and Lawless have signed and we’re also speaking to Steve David, Christie Elliott and Jordan Rhodes. Would take it with a pinch of salt It was obviously a wind-up but Dundee's new manager may want to bring in another striker. If so, Rudden could be available, possibly on loan. I'd take him back if we can afford him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) Dundee will probably be paying Rudden about double what we were when he officially starts his contract with them. No chance he's back with us next year. Edited May 17, 2022 by Nightmare 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, JagsCG said: I think Rudden leaving (and us not replacing with a similar quality) was one of the factors in us falling away from challenging closer to the top, so its still naturally frustrating. But I'd probably still take him back given his contribution earlier in the season - I'd say its extremely unlikely though. Jordan Rhodes who scored last night to take his side within a game from the English Premier League? Safe to say that one isn't happening. Would absolutely take Easton though. Agree totally. Rhodes also has two years left on his contract. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Nightmare said: Dundee will probably be paying Rudden about double what we were when he officially starts his contract with them. No chance he's back with us next year. Are PCAs legally binding or can Dundee wriggle out of the deal without paying him compensation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Just now, Bishop Briggs said: Are PCAs legally binding or can Dundee wriggle out of the deal without paying him compensation? I don't think they're legally binding and there's precedent for players getting out of them. I'm not sure why Dundee would want to do that, though, as Rudden proved with us that he's a pretty good player at this level. Of course, this is Dundee we're talking about who regularly do stupid things (see: appointing Mark McGhee), so I suppose there's a chance they don't want to keep him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Would it not be more likely Rudden wants to get out of it- I know there are / were rumours that Ricky Lamie who had also agreed a PCA with Dundee had a get-out clause in his if Dundee went down but I've not paid much attention to that. If Rudden is playing in the Championship next year he'll be a Dundee player. But it won't matter as we've got Jordan Rhodes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fuctifano said: Would it not be more likely Rudden wants to get out of it- I know there are / were rumours that Ricky Lamie who had also agreed a PCA with Dundee had a get-out clause in his if Dundee went down but I've not paid much attention to that. If Rudden is playing in the Championship next year he'll be a Dundee player. But it won't matter as we've got Jordan Rhodes. I hope so because he's been brutal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 34 minutes ago, JagsCG said: Jordan Rhodes who scored last night to take his side within a game from the English Premier League?. Aye, but he’s been there and done that. Time for something new and exotic. Like the League Cup group stages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Steven Davis setting up Jordan Rhodes next season? Might as well get our name on the trophy already... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsMan1974 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 At the meet the manager last night and speaking to McCall we have a right back due to come in end of the week, sounds like McMillan or Elliot going off when a boy asked if he played for the club before McCall said aye. He is also hopeful of another midfielder and is looking to bring in another goalkeeper, first choice centre back, a striker(who wants to come in as the number 1) and two right sided midfielders, one being Fitzpatrick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placidcasual Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 On 16/05/2022 at 10:50, Trogdor said: ...and yet we'd take Uncle Ian back in a heart beat. Speak for yourself. As far as I'm concerned we punched above our weight for about 5 months (Aug to Dec his 2nd attempt at the championship). The other 4.5 years he was anywhere between average and poor. He's a messianic figure amongst our support on account of what came before and after him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, placidcasual said: Speak for yourself. As far as I'm concerned we punched above our weight for about 5 months (Aug to Dec his 2nd attempt at the championship). The other 4.5 years he was anywhere between average and poor. He's a messianic figure amongst our support on account of what came before and after him. With the bar set that high there can't be many managers in our history you are happy with then? Edited May 17, 2022 by Trogdor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Aye, but he’s been there and done that. Time for something new and exotic. Like the League Cup group stages. McCall told Rhodes that he'll be our first choice right-back. So Jordan bought out his Huddersfield contract.... Edited May 17, 2022 by Bishop Briggs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 7 hours ago, Ludo*1 said: I hope so because he's been brutal. How bad? Perhaps he did not get on with McGhee. Presumably WGS will decide who is signed up for next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said: How bad? Perhaps he did not get on with McGhee. Presumably WGS will decide who is signed up for next season. As in often looked like he was a competition winner in a terrible Dundee side. Maybe the Championship is his level, but he's not shown he's got any aspects of being a competent footballer down at all so far. Still hoping it 'clicks' in the way he's seemed to light on fire before though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Another ex-Jag is available -.Ross County have confirmed the departure of Blair Spittal - https://www.rosscountyfootballclub.co.uk/news-items/blair-spittal-departs-ross-county. One of McCall's targets? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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