LincolnHearts Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Bishop Briggs said: Having a legal background does not mean that your opinion is therefore right. There can be a conflict between a company's articles of association, company law and regulatory best practice. This case will scrutinise the SPFL and SFA's governance, rules and regulations. They are not fit for purpose and the "jobs for the boys" culture in football is unacceptable. Sadly, it will very difficult to change it as there are too many vested interests and personal agendas. Just look at FIFA and it's regional confederations. Models of regulatory best practice and financial probity? Precisely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnHearts Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Ad Lib said: Deterrence. They want all disputes involving the affairs of Scottish football to be the subject of arbitration rather than the courts. It’s cheaper and reduces risks and uncertainties in their business activities. It leaves football people in control of the process so they can govern flexibly as they see fit. Quite important when your business model depends on sponsorship and media contracts that assume your competitions will be run in a certain way. The bright lights of London and the office photocopier have taken their toll on you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reid Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 f**k off you arrogant twat! You are a bigger bellend than Ad Lib.Don’t quite see how me calling out your dreadful patter makes me a bellend tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 hours ago, JudgeMudge said: Whatever you think about the chances of success in the court action, the constant pushing in the press of expulsion talk is ridiculous. Why is that being pushed so hard? Agree, it's something that simply will not (and should not) happen in this case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 14 hours ago, Bishop Briggs said: Having a legal background does not mean that your opinion is therefore right. 8 hours ago, LincolnHearts said: Precisely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Theres a reason Lincoln Hearts has run away from the main court case thread and is now slinking about individual club threads to talk about it. I'm sure you'll be able to figure out why. Also, Aberdeen are selling season tickets and are "confident" they can get 7500 fans in for the opening game. That's on their official Twitter. Based on that there seems to be every chance your League One games might start with a full crowd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 8 hours ago, LincolnHearts said: The bright lights of London and the office photocopier have taken their toll on you. I have only once used a photocopier since I first moved to London. Zero points for you. Much like the matches that book-ended your club’s league season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsCG Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 43 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Also, Aberdeen are selling season tickets and are "confident" they can get 7500 fans in for the opening game. That's on their official Twitter. Based on that there seems to be every chance your League One games might start with a full crowd. Well that’s good news then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnHearts Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Theres a reason Lincoln Hearts has run away from the main court case thread and is now slinking about individual club threads to talk about it. I'm sure you'll be able to figure out why. Also, Aberdeen are selling season tickets and are "confident" they can get 7500 fans in for the opening game. That's on their official Twitter. Based on that there seems to be every chance your League One games might start with a full crowd. WTF you on about Billy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 3 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Theres a reason Lincoln Hearts has run away from the main court case thread and is now slinking about individual club threads to talk about it. Jeez, irony with a capital I. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistledo Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 19 hours ago, Ad Lib said: Except the SFA isn't (unlike the Financial Conduct Authority) simply a regulatory body, and arbitration isn't the same thing as adjudication. If you look at pretty much any nation with a football association that operates separately from the corporate body of its leagues, you will see a deliberate decision to include representatives from the latter sitting on the board of the former. For example, Peter McCormick sits on the FA Board as a representative of the Premier League, Rick Parry sits on it on behalf of the EFL, and the two league bodies have a joint representative on the FA Board in the form of Rupinder Bains. In Germany, the Chief Executive of the DFL is a Vice President of the Deutscher Fußball-Bund. This is clearly the norm for how football is structured, and it's because national associations aren't meant to be the same as financial regulators. Their functions simply aren't the same. This is not a conflict of interest. I hope he doesn't, because it will make him look very silly and it would be such a shame to ruin his career pursuing such a legal non-starter of an argument when he might otherwise be useful to us with this and future disputes. Ah so what you're saying is, corruption in football is occurring globally. I think it's arguable, that by definition it's not a clear cut yes or no, in terms of a conflict of interest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, thistledo said: Ah so what you're saying is, corruption in football is occurring globally. No. Corruption requires dishonesty. They are transparent here in how they want it to be arranged unfairly. 10 minutes ago, thistledo said: I think it's arguable, that by definition it's not a clear cut yes or no, in terms of a conflict of interest. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Psychosis Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 22 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Because it's extreme. Football reporters in the Scottish press only deal in opposite ends of the spectrum, nothing in between allows them to use their shite hyperbole. Plus, a more nuanced take on proceedings would require said journos to actually understand the case. Given that most of them struggle to get the names of players right, the odds of them understanding a potentially complex legal argument based on the intersection of SFA/SPFL articles of association and competition law is about as likely as me waking up with Scarlett Johansson tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeMudge Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Generally speaking, the hearing going longer is not a bad thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInTheAyr Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Agree, it's something that simply will not (and should not) happen in this case. Let's not be too hasty there now. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsCG Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-doncaster-could-face-court-22291951.amp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 11 hours ago, LincolnHearts said: WTF you on about Billy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, JagsCG said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neil-doncaster-could-face-court-22291951.amp "Hauled into the dock" Absolutely not asked to give evidence via a video link. He will be arrested, clapped in irons and dragged along the M8 behind a coach, before being "hauled into the dock". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimeWritingJag Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Decision expected today. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-court-battle-live-hearts-22294797.amp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, CrimeWritingJag said: Decision expected today. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-court-battle-live-hearts-22294797.amp Yip, decision at 2.00pm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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